[QUOTE=Mavericks Ace;9935230]Can we just say it is what it is?
Alex Smith, has never been a down the field passer.
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Not really true. Look at his 2006 year under Turner. Admittedly, that's pre-shoulder injuries.
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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff
Because other QB's are asked to do MORE than Smith is. They don't have the luxury of relying on their top defense and a kicker to win them games. There isn't a single QB that would have anything close to a winning record if they averaged a TD a game. Like I said, if the Chiefs D is not stellar, Alex will struggle. He'll have a nice completion percentage and cute little QB rating...but he won't win games.
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Please define "More". Last time I checked every QB in the league has one goal...win games. I'm not going to argue this point with you until you're less vague.
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Originally Posted by 9er guy
But we're ignoring context. One guy is a former #1 overall pick with almost 10 years of experience.
The other guy is a 2nd rounder that hadn't even played until last season and is still learning the position.
Even in a vacuum I would say advantage Kaep.
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10 years? LOL...you do realize that Alex is 2 years older than Kaep, right?I do agree that Kaep was impressive considering his lack of experience though.
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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff
Why not include Kaepernick's total production (through the air and on the ground)?
It's not just about passing, it's about total productivity and Kaepernick is superior to Smith in that regard hands down.
Kaepernick had 23 total TD's last year. Smith has not been able to match that in his entire career while playing more games. Kaepernick is dynamic, Smith is limited. No need to cherry pick stats.
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If you want to include the running game, go for it. Let us also include the ability to change the play call at the line of scrimmage which gave Frank Gore an extra yard per carry in comparison and kept the defense off the field which allowed them to play better as well.
Seriously, why is this a Kaep Vs. Alex thread?