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Old 06-01-2023, 08:10 AM   #86
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I will repeat that I think the Chiefs OTs got barbecued, often unfairly, by the person who was 'grading' the pressures.

The pressures just don't check out. They don't align with anything else that team did. The sack rate, the pass block win rates - none of them make sense if you also conclude that the Chiefs were abysmal at giving up pressures from OT.

I just don't put much stock in the pressure numbers. They're too subjective and I've seen PFF graders get hard-ons for guys too many times in the past to believe that it couldn't have happened here.

These 'graders' are simply not above confirmation bias. And it shows time and time again. I absolutely think that's what happened with the pressures surrendered by Brown and Wylie. You just can't have the kind of pass rush win rates they had and still have the poor pressure rates they had.
I avoid PFF's grades personally, HOWEVER, their advanced statistics do hold water (Often sharing similarly with NFL Next Gen Stats). As in this case, their confirmation bias (if any in this case) would be favoring Orlando when looking at the metrics (His grade is higher with worse advanced statistics), so in this case we can't really claim confirmation bias when looking at the statistics, as Brown has the higher grade in 2022.

I would argue it often seems like there is less pressure on Mahomes than there actually is with the eye test because rolling out and avoiding pressure is simply so natural to him in comparison to the rest of the league, but it is pressure nonetheless. (Also, hence his historically low sack to pressure ratio). This makes it seem like Orlando was doing a better job than he actually was (in my opinion, and the same could be argued with Wylie)

Also, if we go with just simply the eye test, in 2021 when healthy, sorry for the apparent hot take, but Smith was the superior pass blocker for an offense like ours. A better pass blocker than Orlando.

I'm not saying that PFF grades are good, I think they're crap honestly, but their advanced stats all have definitions, so they don't just go making up crap for no reason. You're arguing something that I'm not.
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