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Old 11-18-2021, 02:45 PM   #56824
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 View Post
This is a reasonable take. I honestly don’t think we will get to the point that people won’t be allowed in a grocery store if they don’t have a vaccine. We have never done that with any disease that I know of.

I understand restrictions. But vaccine requirements to work remotely, or to go to the grocery store seem heavy handed to me. I don’t understand the I have the vaccine, but you don’t have the vaccine so you are putting me in danger. When anyone can pass the disease to anyone. Some people have not had the traditional vaccines that everyone else has (whatever their reasons may be) , but we don’t treat them as second hand citizens that can’t participate in society like some Europeans are treating their citizens over this.

I think mRNA is the future just need to keep testing it.
So maybe its not at the level of not participating in society, but we have, at times, kept kids out of school for not having a measles vaccine.

The US has a stronger tradition, and a stronger constitution, for individual rights than most countries. Which of course has trade offs.

There have been hospital ICU beds that have at various times filled up and negatively impacted the health outcomes of non covid patients.

Some European countries are facing that prospect again. I think heavy handed tactics aren't unreasonable.

As far as the US, our political situation and traditions are different. I don't think anything productive would come out of suggesting another lockdown of the type some European countries are implementing. Even if local ICU beds were overfilled and emergency tents were in the parking lots...
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