Originally Posted by BryanBusby
Too many things I disliked to break it all down at that moment, but no problem! - Thanks this is more what I look for because at this moment it's just throwing shit at the wall and gauging what people feel are the biggest holes. Not that any of this will come to fruition, but usually the consensus speaks closely to what happens.
That would be a terrible return for a pass-rusher like Chris Jones in a pretty weak class for 3/5 tech's. Once Brown is off the board, it gets thin in a hurry. That should tell you pretty quick that trade sucks. - I agree it gets thin. I like Brown and Marvin Wilson, but after that it's pretty meh. I like some 4-3 run stuffers though. Maybe Chris Jones is worth more, but historically you don't see much movement of DTs and those that have been of late haven't generated big returns. Perhaps Jones being a good pass rusher will help.
Once you factor in that just letting Jones walk out the door would get you a 3 in 2021 anyhow, that trade really sucks. - I'm preparing myself for a letdown with Jones' return. If Veach has proven anything, he doesn't get much value in trades.
Spending the #33 pick on a RB with how good the mid range talent pool is in this class is bad. - Dobbins is the only back I'm considering ahead of round 5/UDFA and I don't think he lasts long into round 2, if he even gets there. I really like Ragas late. In my opinion it's either lay the chips down on the table and get a stud or just continue with the status quo.
Don't like the idea of Hall in the first round, and I especially don't understand retaining Breeland than following it up with drafting a CB in the first round. Is that you Matt Millen? - Fully disagree here. I'm letting Fuller and Claiborne walk and I'm looking more forward here than a year or two. Hall is probably the best DB in this draft at getting his hands on the football. I'm not especially enamored with Ward as a starter nor do I think Fenton is going to be an every-down corner. I'd rather have a good set of outside CBs in today's NFL than not. I think Breeland + Hall is a solid combination. If anything, I'd consider myself more overzealous in picking up Jimmy Ward in FA but he's more of a Honey Badger insurance policy than he is much else.
Robinson isn't leaving the Lions and if they pick up a new DT, I'd like someone with more of a pass-rushing presence. - I can agree here, although I'd rather the DTs be run-first oriented. This team plays better with Nnadi, Saunders, and Pennel as the primary interior defenders. I may shift this money to going back to hoping a guy like Schobert isn't franchised.
DRob is going to fetch more than that in an open market. - I doubt it. We thought Conley would too and he didn't. DRob is nearly a carbon copy. Maybe you have to add a million per over the two years, but I don't think it's any higher than that. Even if you don't compare him to Conley, he certainly fits in the Allen Hurns and Andre Roberts category and they fetched in that range.
Not really sure why they're targeting a DE either if Ogbah is being retained. - Okafor sucks, aside from Ogbah and Clark there isn't much, and Spags likes a strong rotation there. I may be going for one a bit early, but I don't like a good portion of this DE class.
With how that offseason is shaping up, if they're targeting a LB it direly needs to be a Mike. - Hitchens was a mistake, no doubt about it. He's far too tentative, gets washed out, and doesn't attack lanes. I hate his ass in the middle as much as anyone. I'd rather make him a June 1 cut than project him on this roster another day. I've been contemplating the position more than any other and just can't foresee a perfect situation outside of drafting two linebackers early, and that's mostly because I don't think the top guys will be available in free agency. Most people want a CB early. I'm on the fence. I would not be opposed to double-dipping at LB and ignoring CB early in the draft, if not entirely, and using free agency to do the same old dance we have been of going after aging free agents. Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Claiborne back with Breeland.
Not really understanding the OL pick up. I think they're going to be ok at Guard, if Rankin can pick up where he left off before the injury. Ldt isn't leaving yet. I'd like an upgrade at Center, but that's what I'd use a mid round pick on in the draft. - Glasgow can play center, he started all of 2018 there. The Lions slid him to guard this year with Ragnow moving back inside to center where he's more natural. They've kind of bounce Glasgow around everywhere. Most people I know that are Lions fans are perplexed with how the Lions have handled, or really not handled, Glasgow. He's been good in all situations, but most loved him as the starting Center. I think he's more than a solid upgrade to Reiter, and that's how I project it with Rankins and LDT flanking him.
Is that enough for you? Kudos to all the work you put in on doing the OP, I just don't agree with the moves. - I appreciate your commentary on these alot, you normally have good insights. Razzing you a bit, but definitely a big thanks for chiming in with some things to think on!
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