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Originally Posted by temper11
Yoda, the proverbial "King" of the Jedi, died in isolation on some swamp planet in his little hut and then later came back as a force ghost.
I don't understand why so many think TLJ is such a monstrous departure from what Star Wars was. You can go right down the line of major complaints:
- No backstory on Snoke? What was the emporer's backstory? I remember as a kid always wondering WTF happened to his face! I don't remember anyone being all butt-hurt about the fact we didn't know. Then 30 years later, we found out and it was kinda cool to finally get that piece filled in.
- Snoke would have seen through Ren's intent with the lightsaber? The emporer didn't when vader, with one freakin' arm, picked him up and threw him over the balcony.
- Rey being strong in the force with no training? In Luke's first moments with a lightsaber in his hand and his second attempt in using the force, he is able to deflect - BLINDFOLDED - three laser blasts. At least Rey has been using and fighting for her survival all of her life with a lightsaber-ish type of weapon. Luke was an f'ing farmer!
- Luke abandoning the fight and hiding in Isolation? Yoda and Obi-wan did the same in Episode III.
- Luke deciding to not go with Rey at the end, but rather "fight back" in a different way? Kinda like when he throws his lightsaber away in ROTJ and defeats the emperor by tugging on the heartstrings of his daddy?
- Rey's no-body parents? Who were Anakin's parents? Shmi? A slave.
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So what you're saying is, in best defense to the haters, that the best we can say is these movies are carbon-copy ripoffs of earlier ones.
The inherent problem is that none of this "mythology" really warranted keeping a storyline alive for umpteen movies. Lucas hit gold with the first film in 1977 by stealing a western samurai romance plot and covering it in outer-space trappings and cutting-edge (for the time) effects. But, honestly, the Star Wars world doesn't have anything going for it that warrants continuous re-telling and continuous new movies. "Star Trek" had underlying themes of exploration and humanity seeking out other cultures. The Marvel universe tells stories of different beings with different powers and backstories. "Star Wars" just has lightsabers and pew-pew-pew going for it. I was 10 years old when the first film came out, and it will always be my favorite film ever, but there was nothing there to call for so many sequels telling the same stories with the same plot devices.