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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief
An immoral action is one that violates the rights of another person. It is a stricter morality
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It is ? Tell me more about this so called "stricter morality" a 'morality' that is far superior to Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God of the Holy Bible.
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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief
than your Christian religion as your own holy book justifies the violation of others rights if someone says that God says its okay.
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Hey GC ! You have ISIS that has just invaded your neighborhood and they are about to rape, pillage and kill you, your family, your friends, and your way of life and especially who you worship. Does your "stricter morality" allow you to defend yourself ? Or would your 'stricter morality' not allow self defense because well you know it would be an immoral action that would violate ISIS's rights as humans
You see GC, this is what the Israelites were dealing with literally back in the day and literally to this day.
Now the rub becomes whose god/God/worldview is morally pristine and superior. And why atheists(such as yourself) just throw their hands up and say, "see this is why any religion is bad, PERIOD!! I definitely agree 'religion' has killed more people than anything else on this earth. BUT the religion I speak of is not the religion you think in a traditional sense.
Remember, the SCOTUS ruled that "atheism" IS a religion. So if you want to say that 'religion' has killed more people than any other destructive force on this planet then I would agree. Just look at the 20th Cenury alone and the effects of Marxism/Communism(a la Lenin,Stalin,Mao,Hitler,Polpot, etc....)Look at the social, economic, and cultural effects on any society that does not embrace or has discarded the God of the Bible and you will see total moral corruption that leads to ultimate destruction and why everyone around the world flees to our country. BTW our country is definitely heading down that path as well unfortunately.
Ironic thing the other day, I have a neighbor who is a native born Russian who moved here 30yrs ago and he said to me, "Funny how my native country is trying to bring back the God of the Bible and it is starting to flourish again, whereas this country(America) that I fled to for true freedom is trying to kick Him out just like my native country of Russia did over a hundred years ago."
Abraham, Moses, Joshua,David,etc... of the OT were defending themselves, their way of life and the God they served and
most importantly from those who drew first blood. You can throw around all the Dawkins,Hinchens,Harris disingenuous, dishonest, mis-leading, straw man arguments against the God of the Holy Bible you want. But the real question that should be answered and answered honestly is , who is Jesus? And if Jesus IS who He said He IS and performed all the miracles and rose from the dead as stated by many eyewitnesses then you better take heed that the Holy Bible IS the Word of God and does not contradict itself. There is no such thing as 2 Gods of the Bible( an OT God/NT God) The Trinity(Father,Son and Holy Spirit-3 persons in
one essence) has always existed from the beginning of time.
I trust and believe in the 'omniscience'(all knowing) and sovereign God of the Holy Bible which personally gives me great internal soulful peace. You know this already about me. Because God gave freewill to man to choose who he will serve(either God of the Bible or himself). God also knows because of His omniscience whether or not Israel's foes would ever surrender to the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob. Thus all those OT war stories of where God commands Israel to attack her foes i.e. to self-defense and total annihilation "knew omnisciently" these foes would never stop therefore God allowed them to be destroyed.
Jesus's "moral absolutes" or "man's moral relativity"? Which has shown far more successful over time? You and I will disagree on this answer for sure.
But in reality Jesus wins hands down.
