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Up to Oak Creek Canyon on November 5th to do some leaf peeping... maybe make it later in November or December.
Sounds like a worthy place to catch a game...I would like to try a new place. Zipps on Indian School in Phoenix is lame (probably any Zipps for that matter). Clientele a ton of Dad's with their wives and infants, toddlers and young kids... liked the 80's, 90's, & early 2000's when going to the sports bar meant a bar.
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