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Old 05-12-2020, 02:30 PM   #14
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This is all supremely reasonable, but honestly, much of it was pre-rebuttaled in 2B in the OP.

Let us not forget how PHENOMENAL Brett Favre was at his peak, which was a good ten years. Peyton Manning is probably the best quarterback I’ve ever seen, talent-wise. Dan Marino was Next Level amazing.

The right QB isn’t enough. You need to construct a great system manned expertly. Brady had spare parts on offense for many years but he also had great defenses.

I think you’re on surer footing when you argue Reid/Veach is a better HC/GM combo than any of the above QBs had, but even then we can’t fully vouch for Veach yet. Our sample size with him is two years, and one of those years (2018) was pretty damn bad.
Well, 2B in the OP draws the same comparison, but it's a different point.

You're saying we need to use Green Bay as a cautionary tale, but think about this: They've had two losing seasons since they won the Super Bowl in 2010. They've been to three NFC Championship games (not counting their Super Bowl season) and been a part of some bullshit bad luck games that should have taken them to an NFC Championship game instead of losing in the divisional. There are no Super Bowls in that span, but it's CONSISTENT winning. They've been in contention to go to the Super Bowl each and every year. They've been buying lottery tickets each year, and just a little nudge of luck in any of those seasons is all it would have taken to actually put them over the top.

And that's with them being a cautionary tale about how not to waste the career of a franchise QB. They gave big extensions to their weapons Jordy, Cobb, Jennings (briefly) and paid for the essentials like a premier passrusher (Clay Matthews) and bookend tackles.

With the exception of last year, their defenses are what killed them each and every time. They finally addressed that by spending money on that side of the damn ball.

If ****ing up got them a minimum of 3 conference championship appearances in 10 years with Aaron Rodgers, and we have a GM who DOES spend money on defense, doesn't it seem likely that would be enough to punch through where Green Bay came up short?
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