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Old 11-17-2004, 08:45 AM  
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I want our next HC to be the DC from the Pats

that guy must be a miracle worker. They've had a ton of injuroes and still field a great defense. That's who I want after DV.
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:46 PM   #106
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Modell decided to can him because he wanted a "fresh start" in Baltimore.
Also, there was no love lost between Modell and Belichick.
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:57 PM   #107
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I seriously think Bradway is mediocre as hell. He got TOOLED in the offseason after 2002.

They have made a few good moves, however. Kevin Mawae is an underrated pickup, as he's an awesome C. Robertson looks like he'll be a good player, although they gave up 3 picks for him, which is a ton in this era.
Compared to Peterson's drafting history Bradway is like Bill Walsh.
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:57 PM   #108
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Also, there was no love lost between Modell and Belichick.
I never realized their relationship was strained.

You made an excellent point about how he delegated authority. By all accounts, he micro-managed the coaching staff, inserting himself into all the various positional meetings and practices. He basically just tried to do too much and didn't trust his staff to do the job.
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:03 PM   #109
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I never realized their relationship was strained.
I don't think it was outright hatred or anything, but I know I read this somewhere.

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You made an excellent point about how he delegated authority. By all accounts, he micro-managed the coaching staff, inserting himself into all the various positional meetings and practices. He basically just tried to do too much and didn't trust his staff to do the job.
Correct. Also, I remember a quote where he told the team at one meeting his first year that he had worked long and hard to get to the position of head coach and "you A-holes aren't going to fug it up for me" or somesuch ridiculous thing.

He definitely did NOT understand how to relate to players and other coaches early on in Cleveland. He was getting better in all aspects of being a HC when they went to Baltimore and it all fell apart. Then he ahd a few more years to think about what had gone wrong and improve it.

I also note that according to Bob Kraft, he seriously considered hiring BB after Parcells left in '96, but at the time he was convinced that a break from Parcells and his legacy was probably in order. After the Grier/Carroll experiment fizzled, he finally went with his instincts (ignoring mucho unsolicited advice) and hired BB.
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Old 11-18-2004, 06:30 AM   #110
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For those who are still interested in Romeo Crennel as a HC, here's another article from the Boston Herald.

Romeo Waits, Wonders
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:30 AM   #111
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For those who are still interested in Romeo Crennel as a HC, here's another article from the Boston Herald.

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Good info reading through this thread but hasn't it turned into a Belicheck Love-In?
Listen, his Rep should include being a master at doing more with less as well as being able to fine tune game plans to a "T", but no one has accounted for "luck" in the SB scenarios. Now, before you chowderheads bust an artery, remember "the tuck rule" which, fortunately for you and the AFC West, sent the Raiders into a spiraling death leap that continues to this day. Different ref or different angle and Raiders move on. Last year the Panthers (IMO) had your team by the nads and couldn't close the deal --that loss appears to have sent them spiraling as well. In defense "luck" just doesn't happen, it's usually a result of hard work.

After a Chiefs win Monday or the inevitable Patriots fall to earth in the playoffs/conference game Belicheck can be satisfied with his accomplishments as he takes his place among other good coaches...



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Old 11-18-2004, 11:42 AM   #112
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Bellichek = Marty???



in a era of parity, is bellicheck just good at making average talent play better without beating themselves?
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:53 AM   #113
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Good info reading through this thread but hasn't it turned into a Belicheck Love-In?
Listen, his Rep should include being a master at doing more with less as well as being able to fine tune game plans to a "T", but no one has accounted for "luck" in the SB scenarios. Now, before you chowderheads bust an artery, remember "the tuck rule" which, fortunately for you and the AFC West, sent the Raiders into a spiraling death leap that continues to this day. Different ref or different angle and Raiders move on. Last year the Panthers (IMO) had your team by the nads and couldn't close the deal --that loss appears to have sent them spiraling as well. In defense "luck" just doesn't happen, it's usually a result of hard work.

After a Chiefs win Monday or the inevitable Patriots fall to earth in the playoffs/conference game Belicheck can be satisfied with his accomplishments as he takes his place among other good coaches...
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Wow, 2 SBs and a 21 game win streak and he's only "good"?! What does it take to be great?

Seriously, the Cats were lucky to be in the SB at all. We should have blown them out, and it was clear from the get-go that it was our game to win or lose.

Stats:

Time of Possession: 38 minutes to 21
Yards: 481 to 387

We had more first downs, more sacks (4-0), more yards rushing, more yards passing, a higher pass completion %, only 8 penalties to Carolina's 12.

We missed two Figgies which is the only reason the game was so close at the end.

We also had the lead, or were tied, for at least 55 minutes out of the 60 minute game.

There's no way in the world you can describe that game as Carolina "having us by the nads" and letting it slip away when they "should have" won. That's a joke.
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:58 AM   #114
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Wow, 2 SBs and a 21 game win streak and he's only "good"?! What does it take to be great?
Win another one and then I'll concede.
I would call the Packers, the Steelers and San Francisco great teams. And No, I don't consider what the Donks did as great.

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Win another one and then I'll concede.

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