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10-17-2020, 06:46 PM | #151 | |
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Cycles of 3-4 months with 'downtime' in between is a waste of time. Your shutting your boys down for the blast period then when you stop injecting you will feel like crap as ALL your hormone levels start dropping. Any new substantial amounts of muscle tissue you built on said 'elevated' hormone levels will not be there for much longer. This is why guys that know what they are talking about always mention that if you are making the decision to pin, its a life decision. Any doc that wants to put you on HCG + an aromatase inhibitor for hormone replacement you need to walk back out of the office. |
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10-17-2020, 07:19 PM | #152 | |
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I’m curious about the cream. I’ve only done injections. Was it you who said that the cream doesn’t shut down your natural production of T and other hormones? I’ll be pretty ticked off if that’s true. |
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10-17-2020, 07:48 PM | #153 | |
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My prescribed dose was 200mg/week. I would inject 100 mg twice weekly. At times I dropped the dose to 150 or 100/wk. My total T was usually between 900 and 1100. Occasionally dipped over. What are your thoughts on HCG? I don't use HCG very often when on TRT but I know some use it throughout the duration. The doc put me on a "PCT" protocol of HCG and Clomid about a month ago (two weeks after my last injection). I'm not sure if this is a great protocol. I just went along with their recommendation because the last time I came off I felt horrible for a few months. It seems that I've had some adverse physical effects since I started taking these, but it's hard to determine if they're caused by the drugs or depleting testosterone levels and imbalances in my system (or both). It's still not clear to me exactly how Clomid affects estrogen or if it's healthy to use. I definitely agree that aromatase inhibitors should be avoided as much as possible and maybe completely. I never took them on a regular basis. I would take a small dose occasionally (once a week or so at most). At times I crashed E2 and it wasn't fun at all and really seemed to throw my system out of wack. If I were to go back on, do you think 150ish/week divided into two doses + DIM would be a good protocol? |
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10-17-2020, 10:44 PM | #154 |
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Sexual exhaustion, sure. But sexual exhaustion is the same whether you're masturbating or humping your lady. That's different than saying masturbation causes ED. Frequency is definitely an issue. But it doesn't matter who it's with.
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10-17-2020, 10:48 PM | #155 | |
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I would just clarify that frequent use of pornography is in no way different than frequent normal sex in regards to a person's predilections or lack of satisfaction.
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10-17-2020, 10:52 PM | #156 |
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That's simply not accurate. There's growing scientific evidence out there to suggest that frequent viewing of pornography by young men permanently affects their ability to enjoy "normal" sex.
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This is the best meta-analysis on the subject done to date. And it does indeed show that. Surprisingly it only seems to be evident for males. Apologies for my arrogance... Quote:
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10-18-2020, 08:06 AM | #161 | |
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The Natesto nasal spray is confirmed to not shut down natural production so that's an option too but requires 3 nasal sprays a day bc it is is so quick acting. Also, for those badmouthing HCG, sometimes that may be the only way to maintain fertility if you still care about that. When I did injections with no hcg, it killed all sperm which was confirmed with semen analysis. After hcg, I was able to continue on T and get my sperm back and have another child, so hcg can be a blessing and also good in keeping your balls from shrinking. |
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10-18-2020, 08:54 AM | #162 | |
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If you dont mind, can you post your bloods (if you have access to them)? I'm interested to see what your estradiol, total & free test, hematocrit is at that has your doctor putting on clomid. Usually dont see guys on that stuff unless that are on test PLUS other heavy androgens that aromatise. Also how are your liver enzymes ALT, AST and Bilirubin? Everyone is different though. Shoot me a PM if you want to compare bloods, I have mine for every 3 months over the last 10 years blasting and cruising. |
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10-18-2020, 10:22 AM | #163 | |
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Not sure if I was clear, but I’m only taking Clomid and HCG for post cycle therapy to kickstart my natural production. They don’t seem to have helped a lot, but I haven’t done any labs. I just stopped HCG after a month and I’m probably going to drop Clomid soon. From what I’ve read about Clomid, it seems that it prevents estrogen from binding to the receptors. Doesn’t seem like a good thing to me, but it’s supposedly pretty effective at keeping your T levels from bottoming out. |
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10-18-2020, 10:51 AM | #164 |
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No worries, man. The research is really just starting unfortunately. I worked with teenagers for 4 years and have two of them myself (both girls). We're really just now starting to understand the impact of having fingertip access to massive amounts of not only porn but porn of every possible niche fetish known (and unknown) to man.
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10-18-2020, 11:28 AM | #165 |
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Interesting how many on CP are on something. Honestly didn't expect this many.
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