Houston Signs

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by milkman

Tell me this.

Can you say with certainty that Eric Kush is not a major downgrade from Hudson?

Can you say with any certainty that Allen is going to step up and play at a level better than Fulton?
Or that Fanaika will?
Or that Fulton will suddenly develop an athletic ability that he clearly didn't have last year?

Can you say with certainty that the good Donald Stephenson will show up at RT?
Or that Allen steps up there?

Is there any single player auditioning for any spots from center to RT that is a clear and certain upgrade?

There's zero downgrade to either spot, and nothing is clear and certain. EVER. Justin Houston might play like shit. Alex Smith might throw for 5000 yards. But I'm pretty certain that we at the very least will see very slight improvements to both positions this season

Could it get worse than Zach Fulton? No, it can't. That's impossible. Because Zach Fulton is still around to be Zach Fulton if all of the candidates are worse than he is. And that's not very likely to happen. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would say that barring injury, the RG position has at least around a 90% chance or greater of giving us AT THE VERY LEAST a slight upgrade.

Could it get worse than Ryan Harris? The only reason why more people didn't bitch that guy out is because just two years ago Eric Fisher had the infamous distinction of being the worst ****ing ever RT the Chiefs have ever thrown out for a season. Oh, and Mike McGlynn happened to be playing on the same line. So no, Donald Stephenson or Jeff Allen can not be worse than Ryan Harris. Are they upgrades? Very very likely.

Overwhelming odds to have at the very least slight improvement at both positions on the right side. Massive upgrade at LG. Downgrade at C.

One position is NOT going to kill this OL and make it worse. That is ****ing silly. If it's worse than last year it's because we have a nasty injury at one of the tackle spots or to Ben Grubbs.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SNR

There's NO downgrade to either spot.

Could it get worse than Zach Fulton? No, it can't. That's impossible. Because Zach Fulton is still around to be Zach Fulton if all of the candidates are worse than he is. And that's not very likely to happen. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would say that barring injury, the RG position has at least around a 90% chance or greater of giving us AT THE VERY LEAST a slight upgrade.

Could it get worse than Ryan Harris? The only reason why more people didn't bitch that guy out is because just two years ago Eric Fisher had the infamous distinction of being the worst ****ing ever RT the Chiefs have ever thrown out for a season. Oh, and Mike McGlynn happened to be playing on the same line. So no, Donald Stephenson or Jeff Allen can not be worse than Ryan Harris. Are they upgrades? Very very likely.

Overwhelming odds to have at the very least slight improvement at both positions on the right side. Massive upgrade at LG. Downgrade at C.

One position is NOT going to kill this OL and make it worse. That is ****ing silly. If it's worse than last year it's because we have a nasty injury at one of the tackle spots or to Ben Grubbs.

This is where we disconnect.

Jeff Allen has been a dumpster fire, and Donald Stephenson has been an enigma, going from pretty good to ****ing awful.

Ryan Harris was mediocre, but as his worst, he wasn't as bad as Stephenson at his worst.

Zach Fulton is, as I've stated before, a crash post, but he was better in his rookie season than Allen has ever been.

And as I've also stated numerous times, I don't believe for a ****ing minute that Eric Kush was kept on the bench because they only view him as a center.

If he couldn't get on the field ahead of McGlynn, then he is almost certainly going to be a ****ing disaster.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by milkman

This is where we disconnect.

Jeff Allen has been a dumpster fire, and Donald Stephenson has been an enigma, going from pretty good to ****ing awful.

Ryan Harris was mediocre, but as his worst, he wasn't as bad as Stephenson at his worst.

Zach Fulton is, as I've stated before, a crash post, but he was better in his rookie season than Allen has ever been.

And as I've also stated numerous times, I don't believe for a ****ing minute that Eric Kush was kept on the bench because they only view him as a center.

If he couldn't get on the field ahead of McGlynn, then he is almost certainly going to be a ****ing disaster.

I still have serious doubts about this oline. Hopefully with Fisher supposedly healthy and strengthening his upper body that he takes the next step. I'm sure having a solid vet at LG in Grubbs should help. Kush at center has had what? One start? I'm certainly not sold on RG and RT.