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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense
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@ GB L 24-28 16 31 227 51.6 7.32 43 0 1 62.2 1 6 6.0 6 0 Sun 9/19 @ MIN W 22-17 21 33 248 63.6 7.52 35 1 0 96.5 5 48 9.6 20 1 Sun 9/26 vs CHI W 24-17 26 35 295 74.3 8.43 20 2 0 118.2 I don't see there being a large discrepancy in Alex and Rich's stats through their first 3 games, sans Rich's win vs. Chicago.
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Wonder how many people read the commentary after the article... Burden of Persuasion The writer of the post has the burden of persuasion, as s/he does for any argument. Even factually accurate statistics can be misleading when (a) a small sample size is used, (b) end-points are carefully selected, or © they are taken out of context. But when such white-lie dishonesty still doesn’t make the point the writer wants to make, to resort to subtracting points from the Chiefs’ offense while not subtracting it from any other team’s numbers, and then comparing the modified Chiefs to the unmodified others, that’s a dishonesty of the bald-faced variety. It was the poster’s lie, not mine. Catching the lie and holding the poster accountable for telling it advances the discussion enough to be useful; the burden isn’t on me (or any of the other several readers who caught the lie) to also go back through the numbers to tell the actual truth. To require one of us to do so would be to require us to accept the poster’s premise, which I don’t. When the defense scores points, the offense doesn’t have to, and the coaches game plan (more conservatively) accordingly. So rather than comparing teams on a dishonest measure of a relatively unimportant stat, I’m more more interested in comparing teams based on advanced stats like ToP/dr. ToP/dr is basically a measure of how successful the Chiefs’ offense was in each of the game contexts it found itself in. And in that stat, they are in the top half, and nearly the top third. This is also why Football Outsiders advanced stats rank the Chiefs’ offense in the top half of the league. by johnbenjaminmoore on Sep 26, 2013 | 8:58 AM⬆up↩reply |
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There are almost no guarantees in anything, so it's pointless to even say... the overwhelming trend is that you need elite QB play to win deep in the playoffs, which can only be overcome by elite play at several other positions, such an entire defense.
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Random comment: cannot believe that there isn't a Justin Houston thread on page one.
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09-26-2013, 03:39 PM | #821 |
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I want my QB making a throw like that every drive to be perfectly honest.
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From a physical standpoint, there wasn't anything unbelievable about that throw.
However, considering that Smith had been shit all night, the field position was terrible, and all of the momentum was starting to turn against the Chiefs, that was a gutty ****ing moment. Look, Smith is still remarkably mediocre; this isn't anything new. But that throw was high-quality. |
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The only stat that matters right now is 3-0. The RT & TE positions need to pick it up. If that happens, Smith & the offense will improve the other stats. Would not be surpised to see Fisher moved to Guard if he doesn't pick it up this next game or two. Not necessarily my recommendation, but I can see it happening.
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