Off-season WR possibilities

[Reerun_KC]

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

[ToxSocks]

Nope. I refuse to even think about the draft or F/A until the season is over. I have no idea what WR's are coming out of the draft or F/A.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

These guys suck.

There is not ONE vet WR on the roster Mahomes wants to throw to.

Bullshit.

James caught 60 balls from Daniel ****ing Jones.

Hardman has been an important piece of this offense before.

Both had some bad injury luck this year, or things are likely different.

Toney has all the talent in the world and has had some untimely and downright crippling drops.

This isn't who they are, but the optics are terrible because "everything that can go wrong, has" for everyone but Rice, 15 is seeing ghosts, and people are freaking out because they aren't playing at the out of their goddamn minds-level that we expect.

If things were as bad as some of y'all claim, we wouldn't even be in the playoff hunt, much less locked into the 3 seed.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

If things were as bad as some of y'all claim, we wouldn't even be in the playoff hunt, much less locked into the 3 seed.

Things have been pretty bad. Fortunately the defense has been excellent which has made up for the offense struggling.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Well yeah, Hammy Watkins spent half his games injured and he was competing for targets with prime Kelce and Hill.

But the offense was noticeably better when he was active than when he wasn't.

Played several other years in Buffalo, LA, Baltimore amd Green Bay where he wasnt competing with Tyreek and Kelce for targets and never did anything of significance. Not hating on the guy just said Rashee Rice will be a better/cheaper version than he ever was the next several years.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Go look at the career stats for Sammy Watkins.The best year of his career he had 60 receptions for 1,047 yards and 9 TDs. Sammy NEVER had over 55 receptions, 675 yards or 3 TDs in a Chiefs uniform.

Rashee Rice in his rookie year just put up 79 receptions for 938 yards and 7 TDs.

Sammy Watkins hype was a product of his top 5 draft position. Rashee Rice is already a better NFL player. Id expect him to take a leap next year as well.

Look at the tape from the 2019 season, bud. Sammy was a legit man-beater and was a good zone beater. Sammy he never had the drop issues Rice has been having nor the fumble problems, and he had more burst.

Those are just facts, his stat lines notwithstanding. Injuries kept him from ever realizing his potential, but his talents and skillsets were on display whenever he was actually healthy, and when Andy actually decided to make more than cursory use of him. Which wasn't that often.

Rice is developing nicely, but he's not consistently beating man coverage, and we know he's still learning how to play zone.

But don't take my word for it:
https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-foo...eek-15-2023#KC

Now, that's two weeks old, but it's as recent as I could find. And Rice went 0fer vs. man through the first 4-5 weeks of the season. So he's made some progress, but he still has a way to go in is development.


Now all that said, right now I'll take Rice all day every day, simply because he's not chronically injured, he's trending in the right direction, and he's producing well.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Bullshit.

James caught 60 balls from Daniel ****ing Jones.

Hardman has been an important piece of this offense before.

Both had some bad injury luck this year, or things are likely different.

Toney has all the talent in the world and has had some untimely and downright crippling drops.

This isn't who they are, but the optics are terrible because "everything that can go wrong, has" for everyone but Rice, 15 is seeing ghosts, and people are freaking out because they aren't playing at the out of their goddamn minds-level that we expect.

If things were as bad as some of y'all claim, we wouldn't even be in the playoff hunt, much less locked into the 3 seed.

James hasn't done shit here this year.

What he did for someone else does not matter.

Hardman has never been a real NFL WR which is why he couldn't see the field for the NY JETS!!!

Toney has talent but all he has done is lose us games. And the coaches 2 years in don't trust him to run more than a few plays even when he is not broken.

Time to move on.

15 is seeing ghosts

Because he does not have a vet he trusts to throw the ball to. So no more bullshit. I don't want to do this again.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

The WR room catches all the shit, but again, they just won a SB with it last year.

Rice has easily replaced JJSS so that doesn't really hold up. Shit just got weird and they all sucked.

They'll pivot. People will bitch when they can't get stops next year. Repeat.

And the Ravens WR's are also comparable to KC, remember when you were pushing that idea?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I want Tay Hickies!!!

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

And the Ravens WR's are also comparable to KC, remember when you were pushing that idea?

I still wonder if Veach was trying to trade up for Flowers. But then would they still have drafted Rice? I need to call Veach.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Sticker shock at someone who's done **** all for the last 2 years.

I'd rather they throw $25M at someone who has actually produced.

****, I'd rather they get aggressive in the draft and bring James and Toney back than throw money at big ass question marks.

Brown had 700 yards in essentially 11 games last year for an absolute dumpster fire team. He had a little less than 600 yards this year for a team that was again a dumpster fire in essentially 12 games.

We went through this re Hopkins last summer. The Cardinals were a mess, Murray is a mess. You have to consider that context.

If you want to knock anything, you could knock him missing 11 games last year and this, but he’s also playing on that garbage field in AZ.

You watch the guy and his skills are the same that had him as a 1st, that got him traded for a 1st.

Long story short, I wouldn’t say he’s done **** all. I’d say he’s had some bad circumstances, performed pretty well in a tough spot and with really rough QB play, and it’s got his market depressed.

He wouldn’t be the most SURE WR to add (that’s probably Mike Evans), but I think he’s potentially the SHREWEST WR they could add.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Look at the tape from the 2019 season, bud. Sammy was a legit man-beater and was a good zone beater. Sammy he never had the drop issues Rice has been having nor the fumble problems, and he had more burst.

Those are just facts, his stat lines notwithstanding. Injuries kept him from ever realizing his potential, but his talents and skillsets were on display whenever he was actually healthy, and when Andy actually decided to make more than cursory use of him. Which wasn't that often.

Rice is developing nicely, but he's not consistently beating man coverage, and we know he's still learning how to play zone.

But don't take my word for it:
https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-foo...eek-15-2023#KC

Now, that's two weeks old, but it's as recent as I could find. And Rice went 0fer vs. man through the first 4-5 weeks of the season. So he's made some progress, but he still has a way to go in is development.


Now all that said, right now I'll take Rice all day every day, simply because he's not chronically injured, he's trending in the right direction, and he's producing well.

Ill take the tough football player who is leading the NFL in YAC as a rookie and is top 5 in yardage of any receiver since week 12. He is seemingly growing stronger every single week out. He must be doing something right. Give me a buzz when Rashee misses a single snap due to a strained hamstring or sore foot much less miss the majority of a season.

It sure was pretty when Sammy Watkins was fully healthy for the first 2 weeks of the season though. I remeber that week 1 Jacksonville game.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by xztop123

For me it’s de and guard that’s overly invested. Though we may have the best de rotation in football right now I think it’s overkilll when our first rd de hardly plays.

Guard is just not a premium position especially when you have a guy that likes to roll out of the pocket and excels at that.

Your takes are always ****ing hot garbage.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Ill take the tough football player who is leading the NFL in YAC as a rookie and is top 5 in yardage of any receiver since week 12. He is seemingly growing stronger every single week out. He must be doing something right. Give me a buzz when Rashee misses a single snap due to a strained hamstring or sore foot much less miss the majority of a season.

It sure was pretty when Sammy Watkins was fully healthy for the first 2 weeks of the season though. I remeber that week 1 Jacksonville game.

Well, yeah. I think I just said that.

Yeah, i did:

Now all that said, right now I'll take Rice all day every day, simply because he's not chronically injured, he's trending in the right direction, and he's producing well.

But would I take 2019 playoff Sammy right now over every WR we currently have on the roster? ****in A I would. But that's fantasyland. Given the situation we're in, and what we've both said about Rice, I'm pretty happy about Rice. Just clearing up the comparison between Sammy and Rice, that's all.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Bullshit.

James caught 60 balls from Daniel ****ing Jones.

Hardman has been an important piece of this offense before.

Both had some bad injury luck this year, or things are likely different.

Toney has all the talent in the world and has had some untimely and downright crippling drops.

This isn't who they are, but the optics are terrible because "everything that can go wrong, has" for everyone but Rice, 15 is seeing ghosts, and people are freaking out because they aren't playing at the out of their goddamn minds-level that we expect.

If things were as bad as some of y'all claim, we wouldn't even be in the playoff hunt, much less locked into the 3 seed.

Richie has been pretty decent so far. I think his injury made it hard bc he couldn't get many game reps with Patrick until recently. Rice has definitely earned Patrick's trust without a doubt. Patrick also trusts Watson.

It was mainly the three assholes that pissed Patrick off. Why Andy won't replace MVS with Hardman is beyond shocking to me.

The guys outside of Rice may not be stars but they are doing the little things right.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Richie has been pretty decent so far. I think his injury made it hard bc he couldn't get many game reps with Patrick until recently. Rice has definitely earned Patrick's trust without a doubt. Patrick also trusts Watson.

It was mainly the three assholes that pissed Patrick off. Why Andy won't replace MVS with Hardman is beyond shocking to me.

The guys outside of Rice may not be stars but they are doing the little things right.

Uh, okay, I'll bite: which WRs aside from Rice are "doing the little things right"?


Because I literally can't think of a single one.