***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

* awaits smart ass comment from DC idiot*

actually there might be some truth to this, considering diabetes is very prevalent in the African American community.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This would be like if you said your penis was large but you only surveyed people with tiny penises.

Open and shut case.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

If you read his link, you'll learn that he's not even clear on his own data.

He's basically cherry picking anything he can to say, this is over everything back to normal immediately. It's like look dude I know this sucks and you're probably losing money but this take is kinda stupid.

It's why I posted yesterday when I read his posts I picture him like this...



Then furiously checking stock prices and unemployment rates.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

actually there might be some truth to this, considering diabetes is very prevalent in the African American community.

Yep. And obesity is very prevalent in white rural areas. I'm hopeful this doesn't explode in those areas as they're already under supported in terms of medical capacity.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Yes you are correct , serology testing would be very helpful.

Not helpful. The most relevant piece of information we need going forward. Far more important than new case numbers.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Now they are saying deaths will peak on Sunday

It would be great to be on the down hill slope of that curve.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So basically you need to be a young white woman in good health......see this is why Sweden is doing ok without social distancing.

You might want to check the rate of underlying health conditions in men compared to women... it is much higher in men mostly due to lifestyle decisions.

[BWillie]

Just before 15k deaths from Covid-19. We comin' for you Italy for that top spot.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yep. And obesity is very prevalent in white rural areas. I'm hopeful this doesn't explode in those areas as they're already under supported in terms of medical capacity.

I don't think you will see it explode like it does in cities for obvious reasons. But the AA Community is very concentrated in major cities across the United States. and if Diabetes is a underlying conditions that really put people at risk...

There might be some truth to AA's dying at a higher clip.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yep. And obesity is very prevalent in white rural areas. I'm hopeful this doesn't explode in those areas as they're already under supported in terms of medical capacity.

I think that's going to be the real issue. If this stuff really starts to hit the more rural areas hard, it's going to be devastating.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yep. And obesity is very prevalent in white rural areas. I'm hopeful this doesn't explode in those areas as they're already under supported in terms of medical capacity.

Something like 45% of adult Americans are obese, 70% overweight.

That doesn't take into account ANY other underlying health condition like hypertension, high blood pressure, asthma, etc.

We're damn near ALL in the high risk category, because damn near NONE of us are in perfect health.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think that's going to be the real issue. If this stuff really starts to hit the more rural areas hard, it's going to be devastating.

That mixed with hospitals in rural areas closing is going to be a real problem.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Something like 45% of adult Americans are obese, 70% overweight.

That doesn't take into account ANY other underlying health condition like hypertension, high blood pressure, asthma, etc.

We're damn near ALL in the high risk category, because damn near NONE of us are in perfect health.

Speak for yourself. I'm the modicum of health.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think that's going to be the real issue. If this stuff really starts to hit the more rural areas hard, it's going to be devastating.

I'm hopeful that they can avoid it due to the population density and such. We'll see though.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by O.city

Speak for yourself. I'm the modicum of health.

Pfft. Anyone that has been a Chiefs fan long enough is one step away from heart failure.