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Quarterbacks haven't been able to pick on him much lately. They were abusing him early on in the season.
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11-15-2018, 07:23 AM | #182 |
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We have had our string of breaks from the refs as well. It's just easy as fans to forget those and mentally hold on to the calls against us.
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11-15-2018, 07:34 AM | #183 | |
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I just don’t see how anybody can feel that it’s anywhere close to a 50/50 deal. We definitely get ****ed more than we get breaks, especially when you’re talking egregious BS. Anybody that disagrees is trying way too hard not to be “that guy” that cries about the refs. I’m not saying it’s a conspiracy, but it is what it is. |
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Whatever the case, I’ve been pleased with Nelson’s progress and play, especially when you consider the other “talent” around him.
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11-15-2018, 11:37 AM | #185 |
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Yeah the Patriots being flagged for nothing against our elite skill players ad pass rush SURE is balanced officiating
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That Patriots game was one of the most unbelievably biased games I have ever seen; we got absolutely cornholed. And what did we hear afterwards? How the Patriots discipline won them the game. Hell no it didn't - they were no more 'disciplined' than we were, they just got away with friggen murder.
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11-15-2018, 01:43 PM | #187 | |
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11-15-2018, 01:46 PM | #188 |
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So here's a theory.
Steven Nelson is about to hit free agency in 2019. Chiefs are on the phone, and they're offering 3 years at 8m/year or whatever. Nelson's agent tells him a couple teams will offer him 11m/year. Nelson is a supremely confident guy but he can't ignore the Marcus Peters situation, can he? Peters' lack of system fit and worse coaching than what he had in Kansas City has probably now cost him tens of millions of dollars on his next contract. Any chance Nelson looks at that and thinks to himself he could make more money long term by staying a Chief? Sure he loses about $9m total, comparing a 3 year/$8m per year deal to a 3 year/$11m per year deal another team might offer him. But! He'd almost certainly have a shot at a real money contract in 2022, whereas if his play fell off on another team with worse coaching, his big money contract days may be over. Anybody else think that's a real possibility? I need BossChief in here; this feels like a very BossChief theory. |
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2013 Eric Fisher Travis Kelce Nico Johnson Sanders Commings (not a bust, just couldn't stay healthy) Mike Catapano 2014 Dee Ford De'Anthony Thomas Zach Fulton Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 2015 Marcus Peters Mitch Morse Chris Conley Steven Nelson Ramik Wilson DJ Alexander James O'Shaughnessy Rakeem Nunez-Rochez 2016 Chris Jones Parker Ehinger Eric Murray Demarcus Robinson Kevin Hogan Tyreek Hill Dadi Nicholas 2017 Patrick Mahomes Tanoh Kpassagnon Kareem Hunt Leon McQuay You can debate a player here or there but that is ****ing disgustingly awesome. When we fired him, I figured the odds of me seeing a Kansas City Super Bowl ever again were dashed. But he did give us Mahomes. |
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Do not pay this guy. He is simply not worth it.
He’s had one good year of production that would warrant a 2nd contract, and that’s with him benefiting from the best pass rush in the league. Is there really any disparity between him and Scandrick, who is making pennies? Draft a corner early and keep Scandrick. Seriously this system helps corners.
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There is no way in hell I would ever recommend that to an NFL player if I were his agent, especially a 'skill' player. You're literally 1 step away from never being relevant again. On that 2nd deal, you get every thin red guaranteed dime you can and you worry about 3 years from now in 3 years because the odds overwhelmingly suggest that you're going to be of little use to anyone by then anyway.
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Think about it - most NFL offenses are righthanded and thats the way the progressions read because that's just how quarterbacks drop back. So as a general rule (not a constant, but a general rule), your quicker developing routes and especially route combos are to the right side of the offense. So if you're a CB that just stays on that side, you see a handful of route combos more frequently over on the right side. If you're a guy on the other side, you'll see a handful of route combinations a little more frequently on that side. Playing defensive back in this era where you can't blast guys and contact is a problem, an era with fast developing routes and lots of space, requires an exceptional ability to recognize, diagnose and react. That HAS to be improved with familiarity. So if you're a CB that plays exclusively on the right side of the offense, you're going to see those little keys that give away something like a flat/slant combo. If you're on the left side of the offense, you're going to be a little better at diagnosing those smash concepts. It's not going to hit 100% of the time by any means, but even a 10% more likely occurrence is going to pay dividends over the course of a long season. Granted, I've become a 'shutdown corners are overvalued and overpriced' guy so of course I believe this - it matches my particular outlook. But I also think it's just more evidence of said outlook. Give me 2 solid corners that I can leave where they are to gain familiarity with those more frequently used concepts and I'm going to be better off than the defense that has a 'lockdown' CB chasing a dude across the field, IMO. Sutton's approach here is either stubborn and the league simply came to him, or it's been extremely smart all along...
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