***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Keep a positive outlook and do your due diligence being safe.

Sent from my SM-G973U1 using Tapatalk

Thanks man.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

I have no idea how people immerse themselves in this shit every day and maintain their sanity.

No doubt I am amazed it the same thing every day. Some are just enthralled with the death count at all times of the day. Who has risen in cases and whos has declined.

It kinda reminds me of the body count on the evening news every damn day during the Vietnam War.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

It’s a tough one there. Most people live in huge buildings they share with everyone else. Its probably close to impossible to even go to the store without catching it there. Every railing. Every elevator button. Microdroplets in every hallway. That’s just getting in and out of the building. Then getting on the subway to go to the store for food...

I imagine the density of NYC factors into it, but it isn’t that simple. San Francisco has the next highest density. It was an early hot spot but got things under control without overwhelming hospitals.

New Orleans has been hit hard.

Albany Georgia is one of the worse spots per capita. That is not exactly a dense metropolis.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It's not hard to believe the amount of people who have it in NYC. It's just a product if having your neighbors all jammed up your ass everywhere you go. I mean you can't even go for a walk in NYC without being surrounded by 1,000's of people regardless.

Yeah I kinda see what you're implying. This is a virus that seems to thrive in environments that is saturated with people and/or has a high population density.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

I imagine the density of NYC factors into it, but it isn’t that simple. San Francisco has the next highest density. It was an early hot spot but got things under control without overwhelming hospitals.

New Orleans has been hit hard.

Albany Georgia is one of the worse spots per capita. That is not exactly a dense metropolis.

Wasnt NYC pretty slow to take precautions?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Wasnt NYC pretty slow to take precautions?

Extremely slow

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Wasnt NYC pretty slow to take precautions?

San Francisco declared a State of Emergency back in February before they ever had a case. People thought it might be a huge overreaction at the time, but they look a lot smarter now.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well hopefully we continue the flattening and start a downtrend. We dropped in new cases yesterday and again today. Let's hope tomorrow stays the same or goes down lower again.

This same thing happened last weekend and then on Monday the total infected and total deaths went up dramatically.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Take your political crap somewhere else. You said it was just the flu a month ago.

I have never one time said "its just the flu". Take your dumbass somewhere else. And what I said had no politics.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by tk13

San Francisco declared a State of Emergency back in February before they ever had a case. People thought it might be a huge overreaction at the time, but they look a lot smarter now.

But most of that work in essential services, we had this back in the holidays time frame. (Thanksgiving and Christmas).

[chiefzilla1501]

Right now, metros are the hot spots. I worry about if this will really hit rural communities eventually. Smaller risk of infection. But as an example smaller towners in the tri-state area drive all the time to NYC, Philly, NJ. All it takes is for a few to get infected to spread it fast. Social distancing has especially been effective at keeping these people from traveling to the cities but what happens when it's lifted? In these small towns, it wouldn't take much at all to break the hospital system which are all already struggling for resources and probably last in line to get protective equipment.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Right now, metros are the hot spots. I worry about if this will really hit rural communities eventually. Smaller risk of infection. But as an example smaller towners in the tri-state area drive all the time to NYC, Philly, NJ. All it takes is for a few to get infected to spread it fast. Social distancing has especially been effective at keeping these people from traveling to the cities but what happens when it's lifted? In these small towns, it wouldn't take much at all to break the hospital system which are all already struggling for resources and probably last in line to get protective equipment.

Or simply close. Rural hospitals were already struggling.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...face-shutdowns

[Donger]

So if the numbers on new cases hold:

April 10 = 33,752
April 11 = 30,003
April 12 = 27,421

[Donger]

And deaths:

April 10 = 2,035
April 11 = 1,830
April 12 = 1,528

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Donger

And deaths:

April 10 = 2,035
April 11 = 1,830
April 12 = 1,528

Because of all the dipshits that thought it was a good idea to go to church for Easter these numbers will look great in a little while.