***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[POND_OF_RED]

Just flew from Honolulu to Seattle and my flight was pretty much fully boarded with a lot of people in a middle seat Not sure how Delta can legitimately say they are practicing social distancing by eliminating the drink service yet have people elbow to elbow on the flight.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

We're getting protesters protesting a planned anti-lockdown protest today. I think both sides are just looking for a reason to enjoy a nice spring day outside.

Isn't protesting against a protest against lockdowns kinda self-defeating???

[swifty32661]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Poll after poll is finding Americans overwhelming support the stay at home orders and fear lifting too early.

One from the Kaiser Family Foundation asked adults nationwide whether shelter-in-place orders were “worth it” or “causing more harm than good.” An overwhelming 80 percent said they were worth it.

In the Economist poll, the share of Republican voters who believed social distancing could be ended and businesses reopened now or within the next two weeks was much bigger than the Democratic figure, but both numbers were modest: 26 percent of Republicans and just 6 percent of Democrats.

https://thehill.com/homenews/the-mem...&ICID=ref_fark

I don't give a rats ass on what the people are saying in polls. All I care about is if the science/data behind staying quarantined warrants it or not.

[Donger]

Great graphic at the bottom showing where every state is with regard to case growth:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...ses/index.html

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's definitely fair given that the NIAID data hasn't been released yet and there isn't a mortality benefit.

Do you know what some of the side effects are?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I was just thinking today that our county should be close to 0 in R_t since we haven't had a case in over a couple of weeks. But we just had another case and one more death of a man over 70.

we've over doubled this week. pettis has gone way up

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Great graphic at the bottom showing where every state is with regard to case growth:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...ses/index.html

I enjoy looking at charts. Thanks.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

we've over doubled this week. pettis has gone way up

St Joe has gone way up too. But testing 3000 people in one area where you know there are a cluster cases will tend to do that I suppose.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Because it wouldn't sound as scary......

well it doesnt have anything to do with transmission. thats probably why.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

well it doesnt have anything to do with transmission. thats probably why.

I'm going with doesn't sound as scary. I almost posted a video from Bill Maher raking the media for that very thing but there were a few political references in there and I didn't want to hear it

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

St Joe has gone way up too. But testing 3000 people in one area where you know there are a cluster cases will tend to do that I suppose.

well of course.


and i thought the plant in marshall getting hit caused it, but i'm hearing not. could be spreading through the police and dispatchers there. but thats just a rumor

[notorious]

Yay, the surrounding counties are a hotspot in my area!

1 out of every 40-50 people have tested positive. The area was insulated for some time until outside travelers brought it in.

This is going to be fun!!!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'm going with doesn't sound as scary. I almost posted a video from Bill Maher raking the media for that very thing but there were a few political references in there and I didn't want to hear it

what are you talking about?

at least 120 asymtomatic people walking around not knowing they have it IS a scary thing pete... probably more so in that industry

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Do you know what some of the side effects are?

Per the Chinese study it was very well tolerated. Similar rates of adverse events to placebo.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

what are you talking about?

at least 120 asymtomatic people walking around not knowing they have it IS a scary thing pete... probably more so in that industry

I'll let you in on a secret, there is more than 120......