***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Spott

Why would someone go golfing in the rain?

Sometimes it starts to rain after you started,also other sporting events get cancelled like soccer which is played in the rain but not when there is lighting.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

To be honest I have tough about finishing up the last few holes during a storm , but I had 1 strike right behind me during my swing and it scared the shit out of me so I sprinted it in lol.

Oh I bet.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

there arent many people here freaking out about new cases.


it's the deaths. which arent going down much. 2200+ yesterday again.

The Facebook warriors sure are freaking out about new cases around these parts.

We also have a grand total of 3 people hospitalized now. We've had 5 total over the past 2 months. These 3 new ones have come over a period of 3 days though.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No shit, Sherlock. I also don't expect to die from a drunk driver or someone texting when I get in my car but I could. I also don't expect to drop dead from a heart attack, stroke, aneurysm or even a virus I would typically be able to fight off.......but I could.


Thank you for setting me straight. I guess we should all just stay inside until we know every last one of us doesn't have the virus or is dead, right?

what are the odds of dying from a drunk driver? someone hitting and killing you while texting?

about 11k people die each year from drunk drivers, including the drunk people...


didnt 11k die last week from this?


great analogy.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

what are the odds of dying from a drunk driver? someone hitting and killing you while texting?

about 11k people die each year from drunk drivers, including the drunk people...


didnt 11k die last week from this?


great analogy.

Well then stay inside and don't come out until you know everyone around you is safe.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

To be honest I have tought about finishing up the last few holes during a storm , but I had 1 strike right behind me during my swing and it scared the shit out of me so I sprinted it in lol.

When I was a kid, my dad built me a half pipe to skateboard on. I had a friend over and we were skating when we heard thunder in the distance. We didn't give it much of a thought.

About 3 minutes later lightening struck a tree no more than 50 feet from where we were skating. I've never run inside so fast in my entire life.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

The Facebook warriors sure are freaking out about new cases around these parts.

We also have a grand total of 3 people hospitalized now. We've had 5 total over the past 2 months. These 3 new ones have come over a period of 3 days though.

Were they from the plant?

[Spott]

Originally Posted by TLO

When I was a kid, my dad built me a half pipe to skateboard on. I had a friend over and we were skating when we heard thunder in the distance. We didn't give it much of a thought.

About 3 minutes later lightening struck a tree no more than 50 feet from where we were skating. I've never run inside so fast in my entire life.

Was the half-pipe nice? Did your Dad do a good job on the transitions and the coping?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

The Facebook warriors sure are freaking out about new cases around these parts.

We also have a grand total of 3 people hospitalized now. We've had 5 total over the past 2 months. These 3 new ones have come over a period of 3 days though.

Also to this point, I would be curious to know how many people ended up in the hospital because they had an underlying but they didn't know they had the underlying until they ended up in the hospital???

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Spott

Was the half-pipe nice? Did your Dad do a good job on the transitions and the coping?

It is pretty funny that I always thought skating on 2 razor thin blades of steel a one of the most slippery surfaces know to man trying to avoid 5 dudes trying to rip my head off using 5 foot pieces of lumber wearing the same deadly foot attire a safe sport, but considered skateboarding deadly not saying it isn't dangerous but that I was always too chicken to try it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Were they from the plant?

That information isn't released, at least not right now. No information whatsoever other than 3 people hospitalized.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Herd immunity isn’t a realistic option for all virus

And neither is a vaccine.

60 years since the human coronavirus family was discovered and there has not been a single effective/scalable vaccine created for any type of coronavirus.

[Discuss Thrower]

Terrific economic news:

The United States government's Bureau of Economic Analysis reported Thursday morning that the savings rate surged to 13.1% in March -- up from 8% in February.
That's the highest savings rate since November 1981. Americans had $2.17 trillion in savings last month.
Consumers are putting more money away at a time when bank savings, money market accounts and Treasury bonds are yielding next to nothing after the Federal Reserve slashed rates to zero last month and launched numerous lending programs in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic.
At a press conference on Wednesday, Fed chair Jerome Powell was asked about what savers should do since rates are at zero. He conceded that for people "really just relying on their bank savings account earnings, you're not going to benefit from low interest rates."

"But we have to look out for the overall economy. Low interest rates support employment, they support economic activity. And those are our mandates," he added.

Powell: "Don't save money people!"

U.S. consumer spending plunged 7.5% in March, reflecting the growing impact of the coronavirus pandemic as Americans complied with stay-at-home orders.

The Commerce Department said that the spending decline was the sharpest monthly drop on records that go back to 1959, exceeding the previous record, a decline of 2.1% in January 1987.

Personal incomes also fell sharply last month, declining by 2% with wages and salaries, the largest part of incomes, falling by 3.1% as millions of Americans started getting lay-off notices.

Source

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well then stay inside and don't come out until you know everyone around you is safe.

thanks for tapping out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

thanks for tapping out.

Sure thing there, bro