***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by O.city

Is it political to say that cases and deaths in border counties are substantially higher than anywhere else in said states while the country just across said border is having a lot of issues?

I'm sure it will be soon. Thanks for posting.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Looks like hospitalizations in Arizona are trending down? Am I reading that right?

That's what I have seen in the charts on their dashboard

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by O.city

Is it political to say that cases and deaths in border counties are substantially higher than anywhere else in said states while the country just across said border is having a lot of issues?

I don't know, but I've said it several times.

[Bob Dole]

As an aside, I had a doctor appointment yesterday and asked to be tested for the antibodies to see if that shit I had just before the shutdown was COVID. I’m interested in hearing the result.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

It makes no sense to me how this stuff is spun. “New York and Italy and Spain did a great job getting this under control”

Uh yeah, after it ripped thru the curve came down and it looks the same as it does in Sweden where they didn’t do the big lockdowns. But they did great?

Maybe I’m reading things wrong

No I would say you are spot on....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I don't know, but I've said it several times.

So have I. Right before or as things started hitting our border states, Mexico had a really big surge in Covid as I understand it. Illegal immigrant crap aside, there is still a lot of business traffic, etc., that takes place crossing the borders.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So have I. Right before or as things started hitting our border states, Mexico had a really big surge in Covid as I understand it. Illegal immigrant crap aside, there is still a lot of business traffic, etc., that takes place crossing the borders.

There’s a shitload of us citizens that live in Mexico

If they were to get it I’d imagine I’d wanna come back here to be treated

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No I would say you are spot on....

I’m not saying anyone has really done a “good” job on this. It’s ****ed three ways from Sunday

But holding up places that have the highest death rate as doing a good job seems off to me

[O.city]

It actually seems like these other states learned from New York what not to do and are doing a better job woth it All things considered

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

It makes no sense to me how this stuff is spun. “New York and Italy and Spain did a great job getting this under control”

Uh yeah, after it ripped thru the curve came down and it looks the same as it does in Sweden where they didn’t do the big lockdowns. But they did great?

Maybe I’m reading things wrong

I don't think I would consider what they did was great they were just the unlucky areas that got to go first. It wouldn't matter who it went first it would have been a shit show.

But 6 months later and some of these states and their citizens still haven't learned from those earliest hit and to me that is what is depressing. No leadership.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't think I would consider what they did was great they were just the unlucky areas that got to go first. It wouldn't matter who it went first it would have been a shit show.

But 6 months later and some of these states and their citizens still haven't learned from those earliest hit and to me that is what is depressing. No leadership.

New York and their leadership seemed to do everything wrong.

We’re shielding the elderly now, nursing homes and such.

The biggest issue I see is that some places didn’t use the lockdown to really plan

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Try spiced cherry bitters. That's my favorite. And if you are going to use cheap vermouth get at least Martini & Rossi. Don't go for that super cheap shit. The better the vermouth the better the cocktail. Olive & Ivy is who turned me onto Antica. They make great Manhattans and their fillets, OMFG. Dude I live in KC which is like the kingdom of steaks and Olive & Ivy's fillet is arguably the best ****ing steak I have ever had.

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't think I would consider what they did was great they were just the unlucky areas that got to go first. It wouldn't matter who it went first it would have been a shit show.

But 6 months later and some of these states and their citizens still haven't learned from those earliest hit and to me that is what is depressing. No leadership.

because alot of people still think its a hoax or its just the flu! It just sucks all around that people dont know how to be smart about it.

[Monticore]

Disney world opening this weekend,seems like a good idea.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Disney world opening this weekend,seems like a good idea.

isnt there a ban fro most major countries from coming to the USA? This is just going to all be American on American spread. lol

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

New York and their leadership seemed to do everything wrong.

We’re shielding the elderly now, nursing homes and such.

The biggest issue I see is that some places didn’t use the lockdown to really plan

Kansas seems to have yet grasped the concept of keep Covid patients out of nursing homes.....