***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Covid-19 is deadlier than the flu. Studies suggest the new coronavirus virus kills 0.5% to 1% of people infected. A look at the numbers. https://t.co/2d4Z9Garz3 via @Brabbott42 @wsj_douglasj

— Stefanie Ilgenfritz (@stefaniei) July 21, 2020

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My son when he was hospitalized with RSV at 3 weeks hit 37 as we were about to be discharged.

I can't even imagine how difficult that time must have been for you, man. Must have taken everything you had in you to stay strong.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Pants

I can't even imagine how difficult that time must have been for you, man. Must have taken everything you had in you to stay strong.

Yeah it was tough, having a Doctor as a wife helps she didn’t leave his side 72 hrs straight, almost ended up intubated and being choppered to Sick Kids but it never got to that , he was a premature 5 weeks as well and spent 2 weeks in NICU before that it was a long first few months .

[petegz28]

Interesting....hope this kind of stuff isn't very common

[Pants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Interesting....hope this kind of stuff isn't very common

I'm sure this is relatively common but I doubt it's enough to be statistically significant at all.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

It's from May but not much has changed

Coronavirus Cases More Than Double In Chicago’s Latino Community

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/05...inx-community/

I'm just going to say it.

I have several hispanic family members and extended family members. Also a few hispanic neighbors.

While it may sound like a blanket statement, and there are certainly members of the hispanic community who do take COVID seriously, the bulk of the latino people I know seem to not give 2 shits about this virus. No masks, house parties, birthday parties, large social gatherings, etc.

There are pockets of that in all communities and races, sure. But I'll be damned if it's not the overwhelming norm in the hispanic communities I interact with.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Covid-19 is deadlier than the flu. Studies suggest the new coronavirus virus kills 0.5% to 1% of people infected. A look at the numbers. https://t.co/2d4Z9Garz3 via @Brabbott42 @wsj_douglasj

— Stefanie Ilgenfritz (@stefaniei) July 21, 2020

From within your article (and a link from within your article as well)

Researchers in the U.S. and Switzerland examined data from the Swiss city of Geneva to calculate fatality rates for different age groups. They found those over 65 had an infection-fatality rate of 5.6%—40 times the risk of someone in their 50s.

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journ...20)30584-3.pdf

Check out the IFR differences in age groups from that link.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Strongside

I'm just going to say it.

I have several hispanic family members and extended family members. Also a few hispanic neighbors.

While it may sound like a blanket statement, and there are certainly members of the hispanic community who do take COVID seriously, the bulk of the latino people I know seem to not give 2 shits about this virus. No masks, house parties, birthday parties, large social gatherings, etc.

There are pockets of that in all communities and races, sure. But I'll be damned if it's not the overwhelming norm in the hispanic communities I interact with.

I’ll admit it, same thing here. It’s very noticeable. Still having large gatherings all the time. Hispanic Coworker here had her family throw a massive family gathering in May. 50 people, all family, and 19 of them got COVID from it and a few of the grandparents died.

Most here wear masks in public I find, but they have a hard time social distancing from their family they don’t live with. Relates to socioeconomic status and education IMO.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Strongside

I'm just going to say it.

I have several hispanic family members and extended family members. Also a few hispanic neighbors.

While it may sound like a blanket statement, and there are certainly members of the hispanic community who do take COVID seriously, the bulk of the latino people I know seem to not give 2 shits about this virus. No masks, house parties, birthday parties, large social gatherings, etc.

There are pockets of that in all communities and races, sure. But I'll be damned if it's not the overwhelming norm in the hispanic communities I interact with.

It's definitely the case in the Hispanic neighborhood I live which at one point had the highest number of cases than any other zip code in the city. That said, at least here, it is a working class neighborhood (I picked a great time to become the face of gentrification) where the majority of jobs are essential and they're proud to go in. The work from home concept as an option is about as foreign as Pace picante sauce here.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Donger

If interested:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...inorities.html

As of June 12, 2020, age-adjusted hospitalization rates are highest among non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native and non-Hispanic black persons, followed by Hispanic or Latino persons.

• Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native persons have a rate approximately 5 times that of non-Hispanic white persons,
• non-Hispanic black persons have a rate approximately 5 times that of non-Hispanic white persons,
• Hispanic or Latino persons have a rate approximately 4 times that of non-Hispanic white persons.

That's interesting but let's not act like whites have been perfect. No one has and plenty of blame to go around w all ethic groups. Just cause one sucks more than the others doesnt mean whites have been good at not spreading the virus.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's interesting but let's not act like whites have been perfect. No one has and plenty of blame to go around w all ethic groups. Just cause one sucks more than the others doesnt mean whites have been good at not spreading the virus.

Regardless of race is seems to follow socioeconomic status and education, if we are just generalizing.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

From within your article (and a link from within your article as well)



https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journ...20)30584-3.pdf

Check out the IFR differences in age groups from that link.

Yep and Covid is more deadly to certain age groups than others just like the flu but it is significantly deadlier.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep and Covid is more deadly to certain age groups than others just like the flu but it is significantly deadlier.

Yeah, well in some ways. It is more deadly than the flu to the elderly and high risk. But the flu is deadlier to younger groups especially children. Maybe that's what you're saying?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, well in some ways. It is more deadly than the flu to the elderly and high risk. But the flu is deadlier to younger groups especially children. Maybe that's what you're saying?

I didn't read it that way.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Regardless of race is seems to follow socioeconomic status and education, if we are just generalizing.

Right. I agree completely.