Vick Sympathizer..Stephon Marbury?? - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 08-22-2007, 09:39 PM

Some people just dont get it...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP&GT1=10347

Embattled Atlanta Falcon Michael Vick has a friend — and fellow doggie disrespecter — in Stephon Marbury.

Also...
For full New York Post coverage, click here.

"I think we don't say anything about people who shoot deer or shoot other animals," the Knick point guard told Capital News 9, an Albany TV station. "You know, from what I understand, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors.

"I think it's tough that we build up Michael Vick and then we break him down."

Vick agreed last week to plead guilty to federal dogfighting and conspiracy charges.

Some of Vick's teammates shared Marbury's support.

"Mike is very human," Alge Crumpler, who who came into the NFL at the same time as Vick, said. "I think this whole ordeal has kind of dehumanized him for the last couple of months. But he's hurting. I do know that. That's a fact. He is hurting."

Others disagreed.

"He's not on the team," running back Warrick Dunn said. "That pretty much makes him an ex-teammate."

Vick is likely to be sentenced to at least a year in prison — and perhaps longer — after he enters his guilty plea next week. He also faces certain punishment from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell under a tougher personal conduct policy that went into effect this year. Vick is expected to miss at least two seasons before he can even think about a comeback.

Coach Bobby Petrino addressed the situation with his players, gauging their feelings and trying to get a handle on how they wanted to express it.

Some wanted to talk. Some didn't.

The Falcons won't be making an immediate decision on Vick's future, having been asked by the NFL to hold off until the league gets a report from its own investigator.

That hasn't stopped some players from trying to reach out to Vick, offering support as he faces the possibility of a lengthy prison term. Crumpler and offensive tackle Wayne Gandy have both been sending frequent text messages, trying to let the quarterback know that he's not alone.

"It's kind of hard," offensive tackle Wayne Gandy conceded. "You don't really know what to say."

"I try to send him a positive note every day," Crumpler added. "I want to make sure he keeps his head up."

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I wonder if losing $80 million dollars causes the same kind of 'hurting' as being electrocuted or drowned does...

What the **** do you care you're the gunt that wanted them ALL killed?

Jenson71 · 08-24-2007, 05:46 PM

Seeing my previous posts on the issue of Vick, you could easily tell where I stand on the issue. I just have a problem with someone who wants to also hang up a teammate who calls him up and gives him a little support.

memyselfI · 08-24-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

Seeing my previous posts on the issue of Vick, you could easily tell where I stand on the issue. I just have a problem with someone who wants to also hang up a teammate who calls him up and gives him a little support.

I understand. I can understand wanting to support your friend and teammate as well. But this is just so over the top. The guy didn't need the money and certainly didn't need to make extra money engaging in such a vicious activity. I think most people really have a hard time understanding and relating to the 'why' and 'how' here.

I mean, most people do not want to abuse their spouse or SO but can understand the anger and frustration that might cause someone to lose control and actually do it. They don't sanction that activity but can see where it's POSSIBLE. (That is another reason why I find that article on another thread so ridiculous...)

However, many of us have a hard time understanding what causes someone to risk their livelihood and their reputation for the fun and the thrill of this activity and then to also engage in the abuse and violence and the treatment these dogs have to endure to compete or to even live to compete...

I think that is where many people, including some of Vick's own friends and supporters, really have a hard time here. It's just so unnecessary and inexplicable.

penchief · 08-24-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Because anyone who has any sympathy for Michael Vick whatsoever is just as subhuman.

First Stone Throwers meet every last Thursday of the month at the Western Sizzlin' in Grandview.

I'm actually sticking up for Marbury. I know that he wasn't defending dog fighting. He was trying to stick up for someone who he felt was being persecuted. I don't think the way Marbury's comments came across reflects what he was really trying to say. He's not a bad guy at all, IMO.

All I was saying was that he raises eyebrows all the time because he says stuff that his mind doesn't process clearly before he says it.

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I understand. I can understand wanting to support your friend and teammate as well. But this is just so over the top. The guy didn't need the money and certainly didn't need to make extra money engaging in such a vicious activity. I think most people really have a hard time understanding and relating to the 'why' and 'how' here.

I mean, most people do not want to abuse their spouse or SO but can understand the anger and frustration that might cause someone to lose control and actually do it. They don't sanction that activity but can see where it's POSSIBLE. (That is another reason why I find that article on another thread so ridiculous...)

However, many of us have a hard time understanding what causes someone to risk their livelihood and their reputation for the fun and the thrill of this activity and then to also engage in the abuse and violence and the treatment these dogs have to endure to compete or to even live to compete...

I think that is where many people, including some of Vick's own friends and supporters, really have a hard time here. It's just so unnecessary and inexplicable.

**** you, I'm sick of this shit. You're just like PETA. Nobody wants to call out these ****ers and the main stream media keeps letting their representatives on TV when they know what they're all about.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Denise crisizing Vick is like Adolph Hitler critisizing somebody for murdering somebody else. YOu are for the extinction of the breed. You are for killing them all. YOu supported killing thousands of them and having take tax payers dogs taken out of their home and murdering them in Denver. NOw you have the audacity to come here and t off on Vick for killing some dogs when you condone killing millions? Nobody is even calling you out on this either besides me. You're a POS Denise and so is anyone who remembers your posts that won't call you out on it now. I hear all this bitching about pit bulls on BB and how they all should be killed then when someone does it's the end of the ****ing world. You're not the only one either Denise.

08-22-2007, 09:39 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $214454	Vick Sympathizer..Stephon Marbury?? Some people just dont get it... http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP&GT1=10347 Embattled Atlanta Falcon Michael Vick has a friend — and fellow doggie disrespecter — in Stephon Marbury. Also... For full New York Post coverage, click here. "I think we don't say anything about people who shoot deer or shoot other animals," the Knick point guard told Capital News 9, an Albany TV station. "You know, from what I understand, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors. "I think it's tough that we build up Michael Vick and then we break him down." Vick agreed last week to plead guilty to federal dogfighting and conspiracy charges. Some of Vick's teammates shared Marbury's support. "Mike is very human," Alge Crumpler, who who came into the NFL at the same time as Vick, said. "I think this whole ordeal has kind of dehumanized him for the last couple of months. But he's hurting. I do know that. That's a fact. He is hurting." Others disagreed. "He's not on the team," running back Warrick Dunn said. "That pretty much makes him an ex-teammate." Vick is likely to be sentenced to at least a year in prison — and perhaps longer — after he enters his guilty plea next week. He also faces certain punishment from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell under a tougher personal conduct policy that went into effect this year. Vick is expected to miss at least two seasons before he can even think about a comeback. Coach Bobby Petrino addressed the situation with his players, gauging their feelings and trying to get a handle on how they wanted to express it. Some wanted to talk. Some didn't. The Falcons won't be making an immediate decision on Vick's future, having been asked by the NFL to hold off until the league gets a report from its own investigator. That hasn't stopped some players from trying to reach out to Vick, offering support as he faces the possibility of a lengthy prison term. Crumpler and offensive tackle Wayne Gandy have both been sending frequent text messages, trying to let the quarterback know that he's not alone. "It's kind of hard," offensive tackle Wayne Gandy conceded. "You don't really know what to say." "I try to send him a positive note every day," Crumpler added. "I want to make sure he keeps his head up."
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Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	Seeing my previous posts on the issue of Vick, you could easily tell where I stand on the issue. I just have a problem with someone who wants to also hang up a teammate who calls him up and gives him a little support.
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