***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Just to piss you off and watch you dwell on it....

Why prod that simpleton? Dude probably has night sweats about cases

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I'll be glad to get my life back to where it was. I have no interest in the new Health Technocrats promising me they can save me.

Walk into a supermarket and look at the crap on the shelves. If people actually cared about health they would look much different.

Not following what this new health Technocrats thing is? Is this a conspiracy thing?



If you decide to have Pizza and cheeseburgers every day, thats on you.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Not following what this new health Technocrats thing is? Is this a conspiracy thing?



If you decide to have Pizza and cheeseburgers every day, thats on you.

The new array of government officials aligned with low-level health bureaucrats that claim they care about my health.

In my area of NY the county executive just outsources his thinking to the governor and the health officer is a woman with background in child pediatrics that has received more than 150,000 in overtime so far.

If the government cared so much about health outcomes they might focus on the fact that Americans consume 152 pounds of sugar a year and about 70 pounds of highly processed oils like soybean and canola.

I don't think there is any great plan. What we get in this country is rule by one set or another. Right now the lockdowns have put a lot of money in the richest people's pockets. The fact that no evidence is presented that they work is of little consequence or the massive loss of small business. Just more $$$ for people like this.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

The new array of government officials aligned with low-level health bureaucrats that claim they care about my health.

In my area of NY the county executive just outsources his thinking to the governor and the health officer is a woman with background in child pediatrics that has received more than 150,000 in overtime so far.

If the government cared so much about health outcomes they might focus on the fact that Americans consume 152 pounds of sugar a year and about 70 pounds of highly processed oils like soybean and canola.

I don't think there is any great plan. What we get in this country is rule by one set or another. Right now the lockdowns have put a lot of money in the richest people's pockets. The fact that no evidence is presented that they work is of little consequence or the massive loss of small business. Just more $$$ for people like this.

[Donger]

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Originally Posted by Dirty Steve

He ain't all there, is he?

[Demonpenz]

Technocrats pump up the jam.mp3 /C:/Jockjames

[TLO]

So I met an RN at a conference last year, and we've kept up a friendship via Facebook as she lives in California. She always seemed very intelligent and level headed to me.

Today I read a post she made on Facebook about how taking the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine was abusing your "white privilege".

God damnit

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by TLO

So I met an RN at a conference last year, and we've kept up a friendship via Facebook as she lives in California. She always seemed very intelligent and level headed to me.

Today I read a post she made on Facebook about how taking the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine was abusing your "white privilege".

God damnit

Unfortunately, common sense and intelligence are not things that are always connected.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Well my 78 year old dad was diagnosed with Covid today. He’s been sick for a week or so and kept telling me it was just a cold. I told him he shouldn’t go anywhere or anything, just in case. He’s been going to restaurants etc. Two nights ago he went with friends and played cards and had supper even though he wasn’t feeling well. Today he can’t stand without feeling like he’ll fall over. Oxygen level at 90. And he doesn’t remember what the doctor told him about the medicines so he’s going back tomorrow. He won’t listen to me. SMH
Hope he’ll be okay. And I hope everyone he's been in contact with will be okay as well. He's a nine hour round trip from me so there's not much I can do in terms of dropping off groceries or medicine. He doesn't have any family near him. ****.

The only good thing is I won't have to hear, "I'm 99.9% sure I had it back in November so I don't think I can catch it." Even if it was in the US then it wasn't in the freaking rural Midwest. SMH. I kept trying to tell him.

[jdubya]

Here in NorCal the mask compliance is annoyingly strong. I say that because even outdoors i get dirty looks from people even when they are 50' from me and across the street. Of course I put on a mask when indoors and walking next to people outdoors. Funny thing is, the majority of folks I see NOT wearing masks are folks with an awful lot of grey in their hair. I think much of that generation is laughing but also ready to roll with it if they get gravely ill.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Today I read a post she made on Facebook about how taking the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine was abusing your "white privilege".

God damnit

I don't get it.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Here in NorCal the mask compliance is annoyingly strong. I say that because even outdoors i get dirty looks from people even when they are 50' from me and across the street. Of course I put on a mask when indoors and walking next to people outdoors. Funny thing is, the majority of folks I see NOT wearing masks are folks with an awful lot of grey in their hair. I think much of that generation is laughing but also ready to roll with it if they get gravely ill.

yup

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Well my 78 year old dad was diagnosed with Covid today. He’s been sick for a week or so and kept telling me it was just a cold. I told him he shouldn’t go anywhere or anything, just in case. He’s been going to restaurants etc. Two nights ago he went with friends and played cards and had supper even though he wasn’t feeling well. Today he can’t stand without feeling like he’ll fall over. Oxygen level at 90. And he doesn’t remember what the doctor told him about the medicines so he’s going back tomorrow. He won’t listen to me. SMH
Hope he’ll be okay. And I hope everyone he's been in contact with will be okay as well. He's a nine hour round trip from me so there's not much I can do in terms of dropping off groceries or medicine. He doesn't have any family near him. ****.

The only good thing is I won't have to hear, "I'm 99.9% sure I had it back in November so I don't think I can catch it." Even if it was in the US then it wasn't in the freaking rural Midwest. SMH. I kept trying to tell him.

Best of luck to him. If things start to decline, don't let him wait around. It can turn fast for people that age.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Best of luck to him. If things start to decline, don't let him wait around. It can turn fast for people that age.

Yeah. My concern is that he hasn't listened to me so far so not certain he will moving forward either.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Yeah. My concern is that he hasn't listened to me so far so not certain he will moving forward either.

Well, I suppose best of luck to you then.