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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 02-11-2021, 11:59 AM   #496
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Probably a good plan unless there's somebody you can't pass up at 31.
Mecole Hardman sucks and Nick Allegreti embarrassed himself in the Super Bowl.

I get your point though.
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Old 02-11-2021, 12:00 PM   #497
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We have 2 elite pass catchers already.

We have 2 elite pass rushers already.

We don't currently have shit on the roster that would qualify as a healthy offensive lineman that's anything other than average or slightly above average.
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Old 02-11-2021, 12:01 PM   #498
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Who are you trading for and what are you giving up?
Those are the questions.
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We have 2 elite pass catchers already.

We have 2 elite pass rushers already.

We don't currently have shit on the roster that would qualify as a healthy offensive lineman that's anything other than average or slightly above average.
All those great receivers we draft aren't going to mean shit when Mahomes gets killed because the o-line sucks.
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Pretty sure I read on the Athletic he didn't have surgery until February.
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I just hope people realize that Veach and Andy aren’t going to go out and draft stout offensive linemen and change his offense to run the ball 25 times a game. That shit isn’t happening.
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We have 2 elite pass catchers already.

We have 2 elite pass rushers already.

We don't currently have shit on the roster that would qualify as a healthy offensive lineman that's anything other than average or slightly above average.
We have two contributing WR's that are free agents. We have ZERO defensive ends opposite Clark.

They're still needs even if they aren't as dire as OL.

You don't go into the draft thinking you're going to draft one or two positions and only those positions. It doesn't work that way. Thankfully, the Chiefs won't approach it that way either.
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All those great receivers we draft aren't going to mean shit when Mahomes gets killed because the o-line sucks.
Why do you assume the line is going to suck?
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Old 02-11-2021, 12:04 PM   #504
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Like Luke Joeckel, Mike Williams, or Robert Gallery?

Picks at every level bust including in the top 5.

That's why you try to have as many of them as you can and don't put too many eggs in one basket.
absolutely.

I think we could probably agree though, that it's time to move OL up in priority from 7th round/UDFA development project level talent and into guys you can project as legitimate NFL starters. That's going to mean investing more significant draft capital.
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I just hope people realize that Veach and Andy aren’t going to go out and draft stout offensive linemen and change his offense to run the ball 25 times a game. That shit isn’t happening.
Yep.

People are setting themselves up to be really disappointed this offseason.
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Why do you assume the line is going to suck?
C'mon man. Who you lining up for game one right now?

It ain't pretty.
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Who are you trading for and what are you giving up?
Rashawn Slater. I think he's damn near prototypical for what you'd want in this offense. If he goes top 5, then that's the way it goes. But if the QBs, WRs, and defensive talent garner most of the attention early and he slides down the board go up and get him.
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Yep.

People are setting themselves up to be really disappointed this offseason.

I don't think anybody wants that.
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I don't think anybody wants that.
There are multiple people on this board that want that.
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absolutely.

I think we could probably agree though, that it's time to move OL up in priority from 7th round/UDFA development project level talent and into guys you can project as legitimate NFL starters. That's going to mean investing more significant draft capital.
ABSOLUTELY.

I don't disagree AT ALL with the idea of grabbing offensive linemen high in the draft.

In more than one of my mocks, I took 2 in the first 3 rounds. In my latest mock, I took a tackle and center first and second (after trading down). I'm not opposed with spending resources on linemen as long as they do it wisely.

The ONLY thing I'm opposed to is this idea that we HAVE to do this or we HAVE to do that. There's a dozen ways to skin this cat and I think they've done plenty enough to earn our trust, no matter what happens.
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