***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Wrong way around. It's the people who are pushing ivermectin who are hostile to the vaccine. Their strategy has been to waive any number of shiny objects around as a distraction and muddle a fairly straightforward vaccine message.

They also seem hostile towards doctors who don’t use these miracle drugs making sound like they are just letting people die, knowing what my wife has to sacrifice and the amount of hours she puts in trying to take care of other people , I understand she gets paid well to it but knowing how much she really cares about her patients, it also feels like a slap in the face when my wife spends hours a day trying to keep anti-medical establishment types out of hospitals instead of with her kids .

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

How do you know the people who took ivermectin took it in human form at the correct dosage? And, there are trials showing it is beneficial.

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

Let’s say it is works now what? Doctors are still going to recommend vaccines so whether it works or not isn’t going to change anything.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

MADERNA

24-year-old Chloe Mrozak from Illinois was arrested after allegedly using this fake #COVID19 vaccine card to enter Hawaii and avoid travel restrictions — it says “Maderna” instead of “Moderna” @KITV4 pic.twitter.com/1EWp3eG3OR

— Tom George (@TheTomGeorge) September 1, 2021

The entire thing looks like it was written by a 4yr old. What a dumbass...

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

How do you know the people who took ivermectin took it in human form at the correct dosage? And, there are trials showing it is beneficial.

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

You don't see the contradiction between "correct dosage" and "there are trials" here? The latter are designed to determine the former, but as of yet, there is no clear consensus on whether it really helps in a meaningful way.

Which, you know, would suggest people shouldn't be randomly trying to take horse pills instead.

(Also, that study has been retracted.)

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I must be missing out. What kind of parasites are people getting on a regular basis?

You would be surprised lol . We are in the cattle business so perhaps you tend to pick them up being around cattle and horses daily. I’ve never been treated for them as an adult I seem to remember as a kid getting it. My son accidentally got some pour on splash on him next morning he freaked out when a big ol worm was in the toilet . I think people who spend most of their time on dirt rather than concrete and asphalt tend to pick them up

[Fish]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Apparently we have parasites more often than we realize. Causing of inflammation and drowsiness. Not always the severe type. He’s the medical nerd on that stuff, not me.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by R Clark

They give it to humans also it’s not just for animals . If you have worms they give you a script in pill form

Those damn COVID worms.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Those damn COVID worms.

You have to take the ivermectin with salt and vinegar within 4 days while the worms are in your throat.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Those damn COVID worms.

You would think people would want avoid putting medications in their body designed to kill things (anti -parasites/viral/bacterial ) nope they seem to worry more about meds designed to prevent things from growing inside of you that are trying to hurt you.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Here's another example. 30 years old and healthy. Took ivermectin, vitamin C, zinc, and aspirin. Didn't get the vaccine. Hated masks.

Dead. He leaves behind a wife and three young girls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/w...-covid-19.html

If one is going to go through that other nonsense, why not get the vaccine? Makes no sense to me.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

If one is going to go through that other nonsense, why not get the vaccine? Makes no sense to me.

I get the theory. Even if you don't know if it does anything, it's been around long enough that it probably won't cause too much harm at least, while they think the vaccines are still sketchy. It's like taking herbal supplements. Do they work? Eh, probably not much if at all. But they probably won't kill you (unless you are an idiot and take it in doses that are far beyond the intended use).

Of course, there are thousands of drugs that theoretically might help and have been around for a long time, so it's weird how people get really excited about specific ones like this.

[Fish]

A 23 yr old Overland Park policeman just died of covid. Unvaccinated.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/one-of-...ailer/37453448

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

MADERNA

24-year-old Chloe Mrozak from Illinois was arrested after allegedly using this fake #COVID19 vaccine card to enter Hawaii and avoid travel restrictions — it says “Maderna” instead of “Moderna” @KITV4 pic.twitter.com/1EWp3eG3OR

— Tom George (@TheTomGeorge) September 1, 2021

I bet she also misspelled her last name.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Here's another example. 30 years old and healthy. Took ivermectin, vitamin C, zinc, and aspirin. Didn't get the vaccine. Hated masks.

Dead. He leaves behind a wife and three young girls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/w...-covid-19.html

People can die with it or without it. Do what's best for you based on your health situation. Keep in mind there are some health conditions your doctor will recommend you not take it. Read up on the vaccine you're thinking about getting and talk to your doctor.

[jdubya]

Just saw a bumper sticker:

"In retrospect, hiding all the microchips in horse dewormer was a stroke of genius"


As one who doesn't care who vaxxes or not and am 100% against mandates and all for choice of how folks want to take care of themselves, this is pretty dang funny I don't care who you are lol. Hopefully we all can laugh at this together