***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I guess if the explanation that "these things are complex, and I trust the people who spend their entire lives studying these things over random people on the internet doing basic math with a calculator" doesn't cut it, I'm not sure there's a lot of middle ground to discuss.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Take your bullshit somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Mennonite

Go **** yourself pillowbiter.

Vacation time

[Fish]

Kansas courts to stop operations except emergencies and ongoing trials due to COVID-19

The Kansas Supreme Court on Wednesday ordered all district and appellate courts to stop all but emergency operations and ongoing trials until further notice.

The order came days after after the Missouri Supreme Court and the Federal District Court for Kansas issued similar orders. Last week courthouses across the region postponed trials and other hearings in response to mounting concerns over the novel coronavirus.

“This is an extraordinary measure to match the gravity of the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Chief Justice Marla Luckert in a news release. “We have a duty to protect the people who come into our courthouses and courtrooms, as well as our employees and judges. This action allows courts to fulfill core functions while reducing in-person contact.”

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lake Hollywood was absolutely packed yesterday but people that should know better were not practicing Social Distancing.

I'll go up tomorrow because it's supposed to be sunny and if it's the same, I'll just do my cardio at home.

Morons.

I heard the virus can't swim, so they should be okay.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

Go **** yourself pillowbiter.

lmao bold move, Paladin.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Appreciate the well wishes. I'm feeling better and fortunate to not have any of the respiratory symptoms. 4 more days at home.#BEATCovid pic.twitter.com/vvjbnqoeZx

— Sean Payton (@SeanPayton) March 19, 2020

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Fish

Kansas courts to stop operations except emergencies and ongoing trials due to COVID-19

The Kansas Supreme Court on Wednesday ordered all district and appellate courts to stop all but emergency operations and ongoing trials until further notice.”

How long until they stop arresting people for stealing stuff under $950?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

New analysis breaks down age-group risk for coronavirus — and shows millennials are not invincible


In general, the U.S. experience largely mimics China’s, with the risk for serious disease and death from Covid-19 rising with age. But in an important qualification, an analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Wednesday underlines a message that infectious disease experts have been emphasizing: Millennials are not invincible. The new data show that up to one-fifth of infected people ages 20-44 have been hospitalized, including 2%-4% who required treatment in an intensive care unit.

Still, the most severe cases, and the highest rates of death, are among the elderly. Although 17% of the U.S. population is 65 or older, 31% of cases were in that age group, CDC experts concluded in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. While it is possible that the elderly have more chances to be infected than younger people, such as by living in nursing homes, that is considered unlikely, since younger adults encounter many others at work and school.

The rest of the article is here:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/...ot-invincible/

The CDC report is here:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

Don't group me with those pussys.

[petegz28]

We just went below the 1.4% death rate to 1.39%. Yes, that has a lot to do with the number of cases going up but still that is better than going the other way like Italy.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Fish

Kansas courts to stop operations except emergencies and ongoing trials due to COVID-19

The Kansas Supreme Court on Wednesday ordered all district and appellate courts to stop all but emergency operations and ongoing trials until further notice.

The order came days after after the Missouri Supreme Court and the Federal District Court for Kansas issued similar orders. Last week courthouses across the region postponed trials and other hearings in response to mounting concerns over the novel coronavirus.

“This is an extraordinary measure to match the gravity of the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Chief Justice Marla Luckert in a news release. “We have a duty to protect the people who come into our courthouses and courtrooms, as well as our employees and judges. This action allows courts to fulfill core functions while reducing in-person contact.”

Yup.

I'm planning on telephone meditations and court appearances for the foreseeable future.

[displacedinMN]

Large stores voluntarily closing. Kohls and a furniture store.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Large stores voluntarily closing. Kohls and a furniture store.

I give it a week before the looting starts.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We just went below the 1.4% death rate to 1.39%. Yes, that has a lot to do with the number of cases going up but still that is better than going the other way like Italy.

And it will keep going down as more people are tested. Here's someone else that has it.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's because we didn't lockdown then, and we have now. Do you even know what an R0 figure is?

It is still too early to determine an accurate R0 for COVID-19, but this is a comparison chart with other diseases/outbreaks for context...

Link: http://theconversation.com/r0-how-sc...-spread-130777

Ebola, 2014: 1.51 to 2.53
H1N1 Influenza, 2009: 1.46 to 1.48
Seasonal Influenza: 2 to 3
Measles: 12 to 18
MERS: Around 1
Polio: 5 to 7
SARS: <1 to 2.75
Smallpox: 5 to 7
COVID-19: 1.5 to 3.5

[Fish]

The University of Missouri campuses are all locking their doors on Monday. Formerly "Essential" personnel that had remained after the students and professors were sent home are now being asked to work from home. If that's not possible, you're getting 5 days of paid leave and on your own once that runs out.