***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

hearing that other people are scared helps me cope with my own fear about it.

Wow. So irrational and unhealthy. You really need to focus on logic and rational thinking. If you encounter fear, responding with “oh I’m fearful too therefore what we are fearful of must be logical” doesn’t help others nor yourself. It is negatively self serving because it allows you to avoid challenging the reasons you are fearful. It’s a defense against challenging your own thoughts or reality on the topic. Try slowing down and actually thinking about the things you come across. How do they compare to other sources? Do they make sense? Is there something that potentially counters a certain point or idea that would give a more complete picture?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is true. I cling to the positive news and enjoy sharing that. But my happiness is short lived because I read something that is nothing but bad news.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I was living that cycle, man. I’m glad I have become moderately numb to the onslaught of info being pumped out.

All we can actually do is wash our hands frequently and stay inside for the meantime. Hang in there, brother.

we can talk about acting faster, medical supplies, ventilator and test kit shortages etc. later. When it’s all over. but focus on the here and now, what’s being done right by everyone right now....

99% of the the best we have in the medical field think social distancing, quarantine of known outbreak is our best choice out of all the bad choices we have. The vast majority of us are cooperating. Right now, tonight, this is the best we can do. Just try to concentrate on that.

[2112]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Cases are growing at a rate of twice every two days, not three.

He seems to miss other obvious facts.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6


I look at that everyday. On a positive note Antartica is clear

[Demonpenz]

You can cope however you want Oakland Raider. There is no right or wrong way to get by. Just get by dude.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I was living that cycle, man. I’m glad I have become moderately numb to the onslaught of info being pumped out.

All we can actually do is wash our hands frequently and stay inside for the meantime. Hang in there, brother.

I can't stay inside due to my job, but I can wash my hands. That's about all the control I have over this, and I understand that.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by D2112

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6


I look at that everyday. On a positive note Antartica is clear

but it looks like they have a massive cold going around

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

but it looks like they have a massive cold going around

Yup. Going to muddy the waters even more.

[srvy]

Bubble Boy out for a stroll in Times Square.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Wow. So irrational and unhealthy. You really need to focus on logic and rational thinking. If you encounter fear, responding with “oh I’m fearful too therefore what we are fearful of must be logical” doesn’t help others nor yourself. It is negatively self serving because it allows you to avoid challenging the reasons you are fearful. It’s a defense against challenging your own thoughts or reality on the topic. Try slowing down and actually thinking about the things you come across. How do they compare to other sources? Do they make sense? Is there something that potentially counters a certain point or idea that would give a more complete picture?

people with bad anxiety know all about this and it only helps so much! Most people already know about everything you said. Problem is they cant shut off the brain in time and once the ****ing adrenaline starts flowing, all you can do is hold the **** on.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by srvy

Bubble Boy out for a stroll in Times Square.

This will be Japan soon. Those guys are weird. But they got no reported cases yet.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Yeah, waiting lists to see doctors in other nations is paramount to what we have here.

****, I’m close to rooting for the virus at this point, because clearly we are doomed as a nation.

Dude, you need to take a chill pill

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is true. I cling to the positive news and enjoy sharing that. But my happiness is short lived because I read something that is nothing but bad news.

Getting anxiety under control will not happen with the help of this thread. That’s just the way it is. That task had to be done separately from here. But that doesn’t mean you should avoid the topic. But what it does mean is your purpose for engaging in the topic has to have a more tempered approach meaning it needs to be more about simply gaining information so you are up to date and informed on the topic. That’s it. Gravitating one way or the other is stressful and anxiety provoking in itself. But engaging for the simple sake of being informed is going to work better for you. But certain things probably should be avoided such as any upsetting videos or the very personal stories because your mind will likely be looking for personal connections to yourself or your family. Focus on research, stats, or dive deep into the science as well.

[DaneMcCloud]

I went out today for groceries.

I went to four Ralphs supermarkets and two Super Targets. The shelves were pretty much bare everywhere and the refrigerated cases were completely empty at four of the five locations I visited.

Fortunately, between all of the stores, I was able to stock up a bit on Lipton Noodle Soup, buns, bread, hot dogs and pasta, along with a few other treats for my kids.

Still, not a single roll of TP, anywhere to be found.

I spoke to the managers of each and every store and they all said "We have trucks coming but we don't know when or what the trucks will deliver".

The lack of food is definitely worrying.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, you need to take a chill pill

So the rest of the country can overreact to the point of destroying our economy and way of life but, I can’t vent a little frustration over it? C’mon now, double standards aren’t going to help this situation any.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I went out today for groceries.

I went to four Ralphs supermarkets and two Super Targets. The shelves were pretty much bare everywhere and the refrigerated cases were completely empty at four of the five locations I visited.

Fortunately, between all of the stores, I was able to stock up a bit on Lipton Noodle Soup, buns, bread, hot dogs and pasta, along with a few other treats for my kids.

Still, not a single roll of TP, anywhere to be found.

I spoke to the managers of each and every store and they all said "We have trucks coming but we don't know when or what the trucks will deliver".

The lack of food is definitely worrying.

Starting to look like you may have to make a road trip.