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B_Ambuehl · 11:03 AM

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

Amnorix · 04-27-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are ****ing stupid.

This.

Delano · 04-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

who knows about "blow" also? he could work out, people are listening to the meccas WAY too much. i found it very funny that mecca ran to NFLDC to try and find out something about "blow" and when he found nothing the player automatically sucks. even came out later and said the guy was slow footed and got beat alot, yet like i said he knew NOTHING about him when he was picked and couldnt find out anything from his other websites

Sauto, you know that the reason most folks hated the Colin Blow pick was because they thought there was much better offensive line value still available?

Folks that watched Mizzou football all year didn't like the pick.

We'll see how it pans out, but there is nothing wrong with people posting their gut reactions and internet research findings on a draft thread.

**SAUTO** · 04-27-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano

Sauto, you know that the reason most folks hated the Colin Blow pick was because they thought there was much better offensive line value still available?

Folks that watched Mizzou football all year didn't like the pick.

We'll see how it pans out, but there is nothing wrong with people posting their gut reactions and internet research findings on a draft thread.

i know why some were upset. my point is that one minute you(not YOU) couldnt find ANYTHING about the guy then a couple of posts later you are saying things about him that you(again not YOU) dont actually know. the fact of the matter was that he HAD NO internet research on the guy. if he had he would have found out that the guy was a 2x all big 12 mention and a 3x academic all american that can and has played every position on the o-line

htismaqe · 04-27-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

This.

You're a hopeless homer.

Oh wait, your a Patriots fan.

DJ's left nut · 04-27-2009, 04:17 PM

Just a quick point --

The #3 could've been 'passed' down to the #10 or whatever had the holder just stood pat. So this 'impossible to trade' talk is garbage.

Would it have been hard to get #3 overall 'draft chart' value for it? Absolutely. But 'draft chart' value is an arbitrary value assigned to these picks when the players available at those levels are commensurately more talented than those that could be available with later picks, that was not the case in this draft.

I do think the Patriots performance in this draft was telling, not for the results but for the trend.

The Patriots continued to do what the Patriots do every year. They were bold, aggressive and active. Set aside what they gave up and what they got back, because the Pats obviously had a lot of bullets in their gun so it stands to reason that they'd get a great return. Just look at how they operated this draft and you'll see that it was the aggressive draft that we thought Pioli would bring with him to KC.

Pioli did none of that.

It certainly appeared to me that the author of the Patriots aggressive draft strategy is still in New England.

04-27-2009, 10:25 AM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	If there was any doubt Belichik was running the show all along in New England Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year. Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers. If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell. I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions? If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master. Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it. Last edited by B_Ambuehl; 04-27-2009 at 11:03 AM..
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3049099	Just a quick point -- The #3 could've been 'passed' down to the #10 or whatever had the holder just stood pat. So this 'impossible to trade' talk is garbage. Would it have been hard to get #3 overall 'draft chart' value for it? Absolutely. But 'draft chart' value is an arbitrary value assigned to these picks when the players available at those levels are commensurately more talented than those that could be available with later picks, that was not the case in this draft. I do think the Patriots performance in this draft was telling, not for the results but for the trend. The Patriots continued to do what the Patriots do every year. They were bold, aggressive and active. Set aside what they gave up and what they got back, because the Pats obviously had a lot of bullets in their gun so it stands to reason that they'd get a great return. Just look at how they operated this draft and you'll see that it was the aggressive draft that we thought Pioli would bring with him to KC. Pioli did none of that. It certainly appeared to me that the author of the Patriots aggressive draft strategy is still in New England.
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