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Andy Reid 90 82.57%
Marty Schottenheimer 10 9.17%
Gaz's mom 9 8.26%
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:20 PM  
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Who do you consider the better coach?

Marty and Andy tied at 200 wins all-time. 6th position in NFL history.

Let's have a spirited, thoughtful and honest conversation about who Chiefs fan would consider the better coach.


1 Don Shula 328
2 George Halas 318
3 Bill Belichick 267
4 Tom Landry 250
5 Curly Lambeau 226
6 Marty Schottenheimer/Andy Reid 200
8 Chuck Noll 193
9 Dan Reeves 190
10 Chuck Knox 186
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:51 PM   #16
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Probably both about the same. Just complete opposites.

They both have had their share of ‘head scratcher’ losses every year.
Pretty much.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:53 PM   #17
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Gaz’s Mom had a good run game.
Have you ever seen someone running from Gaz’s Mom?
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:22 PM   #18
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Andy because he has had more postseason success than Marty and because he is more innovative.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:23 PM   #19
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Until Andy got Mahomes neither had the QB needed to be Super Bowl champions. Put Elway or Marino with Marty, he wins multiple Super Bowls. Give Andy Reid a legit franchise QB he wins multiple Super Bowls.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:26 PM   #20
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With Andy’s teams, I always feel that even with all of Andy’s shortcomings my head says we go into the playoffs with a chance to win. With Marty it was always that even with all the great attributes he had as a coach, my heart would tell me we would find a way to come up short. My heart wants to pick Marty but my head says Andy...
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:32 PM   #21
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Marty's teams were more motivated and tougher.

His teams were tougher and more disciplined
He's defenses were far superior in every way
He's special teams were just as good (mike stock?)
He's offensive lines were just as good, probably better(Solari)
His running games were just as good

The only 2 things Marty couldn't do:

Quarterbacks
Passing game

The 2 things that Andy Reid is great at.
The quarterbacks thing is kind of a myth.

Phillip Rivers, Joe Montana, Drew Brees and Bernie Kosar say hi!

That was more on Carl than Marty.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:07 PM   #22
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Let's see, do I want the offensive coach who hates Super Bowls, or the defensive coach who hates Super Bowls?

Oh hey Gaz's mom!

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Old 10-20-2019, 05:18 PM   #23
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Marty's teams being disciplined is a myth. The Chiefs were routinely among the most penalized teams in football under his tenure here.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:23 PM   #24
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Probably both about the same. Just complete opposites.

They both have had their share of ‘head scratcher’ losses every year.
This. Both got the Chiefs to an AFCCG, and both lost.

The difference is, Marty was able to get teams with less talent to overachieve. Andy seems to have some of the most talented rosters that underachieve.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:43 PM   #25
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This. Both got the Chiefs to an AFCCG, and both lost.

The difference is, Marty was able to get teams with less talent to overachieve. Andy seems to have some of the most talented rosters that underachieve.
Someone is going to challenge you on this. Marty definitely got lesser offenses to overachieve, but he always had a good if not stacked defense.

Frankly, I voted for Gaz's mom because both of those coaches are the rectalAIDS of the post season.
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This. Both got the Chiefs to an AFCCG, and both lost.

The difference is, Marty was able to get teams with less talent to overachieve. Andy seems to have some of the most talented rosters that underachieve.
Andy turned a murder-suicide Chiefs to a team that just made me want to commit suicide in the playoff loss to the Colts. That was a real upgrade with minimal talent uplift.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:26 PM   #28
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There are certain records that are really underappreciated until you see them in black and white.

Look at Shula's wins, just incredible. You take the past 20 years of the Patriots and Bill Belichick's success and he still is 55 wins away
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The quarterbacks thing is kind of a myth.

Phillip Rivers, Joe Montana, Drew Brees and Bernie Kosar say hi!

That was more on Carl than Marty.
He didn't develop any of those other than Bernie.
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This. Both got the Chiefs to an AFCCG, and both lost.

The difference is, Marty was able to get teams with less talent to overachieve. Andy seems to have some of the most talented rosters that underachieve.
That is a very good point and another indicator as to who is the better coach.
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