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Old 11-13-2019, 10:04 AM  
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Jury Duty

I've been selected for Jury Duty! Hooray!

Is there any way to know if I'll actually have to report besides calling the hotline number the night before?

I ask because I have quite the busy week at work next week, and it would be very beneficial to know if I'm going to need to report or not. (Those nuggets at McDonald's aren't going to fry themselves!!)

My online research has failed me.

Any help appreciated.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:32 PM   #61
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:41 PM   #62
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Roger all. I was a legal officer in my first squadron and at Office Hours/ Captains Mast my SGTMAJ would loudly summon the accused with:”March that Guilty Bastard in and let the wheels of justice spin.”

Your approach. Later as a Convening Authority, when presented with Art.32 Investigations, I. always heard SGTMAJ in my head.

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Old 11-13-2019, 08:12 PM   #63
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Roger all. I was a legal officer in my first squadron and at Office Hours/ Captains Mast my SGTMAJ would loudly summon the accused with:”March that Guilty Bastard in and let the wheels of justice spin.”

Your approach. Later as a Convening Authority, when presented with Art.32 Investigations, I. always heard SGTMAJ in my head.
I have no idea what anything you just said means, but I'm slightly aroused.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:00 PM   #64
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First day this week being a holiday I thought might mess with trials, lol.
But seeings how I’m in group #2, it was inevitable.
Groups 2,6 and 300 for tomorrow.

They ain’t gonna want some dude ina wheelchair getting in everybodies way.

I’ll let everyone know about my escapade, lol.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:21 PM   #65
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I have no idea what anything you just said means, but I'm slightly aroused.
Office Hours/Captain's Mast = Non-Judicial Punishment (lower level violations)

Convening Authority = the commanding officer of the accused's unit, who refers the accused to the desired level of punishment.

Article 32 Investigation = military equivalent of a grand jury. Necessary to refer an accused for a general court martial. General court martial can award a dishonorable discharge, and a conviction is a felony.

A special court martial can be convened by the convening authority directly. It can award a bad conduct discharge, and a conviction is a misdemeanor.

And I assume SGTMAJ is Sergeant Major, which is the highest enlisted rank in the Army (E-9). I was Navy, so the highest enlisted rank is MCPO (master chief petty officer).
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:36 AM   #66
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Thanks.
I’m sure that ended the arousal.
SGTMAJ is also highest enlisted rank in the Marine Corps. E-9 They serve as the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer. We’ll sort of. A command only has 1.

We also have Master Gunnery Sergeants also E-9s.
The difference is as Gunnery Sergeants E-7s, they choose whether to be “troop handlers” -First Sergeants E-8s to SGTMAJ. Or technical experts. Master Sergeants E-8s to MasterGuns.
Squadrons and MARSOC commands, usually have both. Don’t get in the middle.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:23 AM   #67
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I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?
I was in the same position earlier this year..there should be an email address on there just email them and tell them you are self employed and there is nobody else that can run your business. They emailed me back and told me I would not have to do it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:44 AM   #68
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I am curious. I own my own business, and if I am selected for Jury Duty that went to trial it will literally cost me thousands of dollars in lost business.

If I said,"Since you are costing me thousands, I am going to vote the opposite of the other jurors no matter what.", what would happen to me?
In Missouri...

494.430. Persons entitled to be excused from jury service — determinations made by judge — undue or extreme physical or financial hardship defined — documentation required, when. — 1. Upon timely application to the court, the following persons shall be excused from service as a petit or grand juror:

  (1) Any person who has served on a state or federal petit or grand jury within the preceding two years;

  (2) Any nursing mother, upon her request, and with a completed written statement from her physician to the court certifying she is a nursing mother;

  (3) Any person whose absence from his or her regular place of employment would, in the judgment of the court, tend materially and adversely to affect the public safety, health, welfare or interest;

  (4) Any person upon whom service as a juror would in the judgment of the court impose an undue or extreme physical or financial hardship;

  (5) Any person licensed as a health care provider as such term is defined in section 538.205, but only if such person provides a written statement to the court certifying that he or she is actually providing health care services to patients, and that the person's service as a juror would be detrimental to the health of the person's patients;

  (6) Any employee of a religious institution whose religious obligations or constraints prohibit their serving on a jury. The certification of the employment and obligation or constraint may be provided by the employee's religious supervisor;

  (7) Any person who is seventy-five years of age or older.

  2. A judge of the court for which the individual was called to jury service shall make undue or extreme physical or financial hardship determinations. The authority to make these determinations is delegable only to court officials or personnel who are authorized by the laws of this state to function as members of the judiciary.

  3. A person asking to be excused based on a finding of undue or extreme physical or financial hardship must take all actions necessary to have obtained a ruling on that request by no later than the date on which the individual is scheduled to appear for jury duty.

  4. Unless it is apparent to the court that the physical hardship would significantly impair the person's ability to serve as a juror, for purposes of sections 494.400 to 494.460 undue or extreme physical or financial hardship is limited to circumstances in which an individual would:

  (1) Be required to abandon a person under his or her personal care or supervision due to the impossibility of obtaining an appropriate substitute caregiver during the period of participation in the jury pool or on the jury; or

  (2) Incur costs that would have a substantial adverse impact on the payment of the individual's necessary daily living expenses or on those for whom he or she provides the principal means of support; or

  (3) Suffer physical hardship that would result in illness or disease.

  5. Undue or extreme physical or financial hardship does not exist solely based on the fact that a prospective juror will be required to be absent from his or her place of employment.

6. A person asking a judge to grant an excuse based on undue or extreme physical or financial hardship shall provide the judge with documentation as required by the judge, such as, but not limited to, federal and state income tax returns, medical statements from licensed physicians, proof of dependency or guardianship, and similar documents, which the judge finds to clearly support the request to be excused. Failure to provide satisfactory documentation shall result in a denial of the request to be excused. Such documents shall be filed under seal.

  7. After two years, a person excused from jury service shall become eligible once again for qualification as a juror unless the person was excused from service permanently. A person is excused from jury service permanently only when the deciding judge determines that the underlying grounds for being excused are of a permanent nature.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:45 AM   #69
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I've always wanted to get summoned for jury duty. Never have.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:49 AM   #70
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6. A person asking a judge to grant an excuse based on undue or extreme physical or financial hardship shall provide the judge with documentation as required by the judge, such as, but not limited to, federal and state income tax returns, medical statements from licensed physicians, proof of dependency or guardianship, and similar documents, which the judge finds to clearly support the request to be excused. Failure to provide satisfactory documentation shall result in a denial of the request to be excused. Such documents shall be filed under seal.
I once knew a guy who was the sole breadwinner for a family of 5. The financial hardship of him missing work (your employer has to let you off without penalty, but they don't have to pay you for the time you're not there) got him excused every time.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:09 AM   #71
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Thanks.
I’m sure that ended the arousal.
SGTMAJ is also highest enlisted rank in the Marine Corps. E-9 They serve as the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer. We’ll sort of. A command only has 1.

We also have Master Gunnery Sergeants also E-9s.
The difference is as Gunnery Sergeants E-7s, they choose whether to be “troop handlers” -First Sergeants E-8s to SGTMAJ. Or technical experts. Master Sergeants E-8s to MasterGuns.
Squadrons and MARSOC commands, usually have both. Don’t get in the middle.
Heh. Sitting in a military court martial will most definitely end one's arousal. Definitely not like the movies. You can handle the truth. Good luck handling the boredom.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:12 AM   #72
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How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:14 AM   #73
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I've been called for district court jury duty a few times and was selected 2 different times. I got lucky in that both trials only took that day. I was also called for federal jury duty when Bob Stephen was being tried for being a crooked politician, got out of that by honestly answering that I have a distrust of politicians and he was probably guilty.

I don't understand why people want to get out of jury duty, it's probably the biggest privilege Americans have, to be tried in front of a jury of your peers. If regular folks skip out of jury duty who's going to be deciding the fate of those charged with crimes?

Of course a lot of you could just send your posts on here to the judge and get immediately excused.
Lol. It’s a pretty well recognized fact that a seated jury is 90% comprised of people not smart enough to duck jury duty and 10% of civic-minded souls such as yourself.

I don’t do jury trials, but I rather suspect your types are the ones to watch out for in voir dire.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:15 AM   #74
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How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?
What’s mail?
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How do you know if you get jury duty if you don't check the mail?
You'll get clued in when the show up to arrest you.
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