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Old 01-25-2020, 03:34 PM  
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It would have been hard to imagine Tyreek Hill playing in the Super Bowl last spring.

The Chiefs wide receiver had been told to stay away from the team facility. He looked in line for at least a suspension and at worst jail time, after being accused of breaking the arm of his 3-year-old son.

But here we are, getting ready for Super Bowl 2020 next week, and Hill will be one of the stars of the big show.

So, how do we reconcile appreciating Hill the athlete while not feeling so good about Hill the person? It is one of the challenges of being a fan. Where do you draw the line? Is it OK to marvel at Hill’s remarkable speed and athleticism? Do you want him on your fantasy football team? Would you allow your child to wear his jersey?

Chiefs fans gave Hill a standing ovation on the first day of training camp after the NFL and district attorney had not found enough evidence to suspend him or pursue charges in the case of his son’s injury.

The district attorney was careful to point out, though, that a crime had been committed against the 3-year-old, but he did not have enough evidence to prosecute Hill or his fiancée, the boy’s mother.

“This office has reviewed all the evidence and has declined to file charges against Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal,” Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe said. “We are deeply troubled by the situation. We believe a crime has occurred, however, the evidence in this case doesn’t establish who committed a crime.”

Though there was not enough evidence for a real court, Hill still felt guilty in the court of public opinion after an audio tape surfaced of a conversation between him and Espinal.

Espinal told Hill, “He is terrified of you,” referring to their son.

“You need to be terrified of me, too b—-,” Hill responded.

Espinal said Hill punched the boy in the chest, something Hill later tried to explain as teaching him how to box.

This was not Hill’s first run in with the law either. When he was at Oklahoma State in 2014, Hill was arrested and pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation for an assault on Espinal, then his pregnant girlfriend. The police report states Hill repeatedly punched her in the stomach and choked her. Oklahoma State kicked him off the football team, and he finished his career at West Alabama.

That incident caused NFL teams to think long and hard about Hill. The Chiefs ended up drafting him in the fifth round, far lower than he would have gone without those character concerns.

Now, he is part of the Chiefs’ explosive offense. Kansas City signed him to a three-year, $54 million contract before this season. He caught seven touchdown passes this season and had two in the AFC Championship game win over the Titans.

For the most part, the accusations of last spring have receded into the background, but Hill will be in the spotlight this week in Miami and will surely be asked about the incident with his son. Ray Lewis had to answer plenty of uncomfortable questions at Super Bowl XXXV in January 2001, a year after he was involved in a murder case — charges that were later dismissed in exchange for testimony against his associates and a guilty plea on obstruction of justice.

Closer to home, Giants fans know what it is like to reconcile loving Lawrence Taylor the linebacker, but not feeling so good about LT, the guy. All teams have players who have had legal problems. The NFL is not a league of choirboys.

Hill’s crime in college and his alleged crime last spring are about the most reprehensible crimes you can think of — abusing a woman and a child.

Fans are going to have to decide for themselves. Will you be screaming for Hill to score a touchdown so you can win your box pool? Will you place a prop bet on him to score the first touchdown? What if he is named MVP?

Being a fan should be simple. It should be a distraction from reality. Hill’s presence this week complicates things and raises plenty of uncomfortable questions that don’t have easy answers.
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Old 01-25-2020, 08:18 PM   #31
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Old 01-25-2020, 09:44 PM   #32
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
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Old 01-25-2020, 10:04 PM   #33
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
You serious?

Get out...
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Old 01-25-2020, 10:14 PM   #34
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
He didn't ****ing do anything.

But now that you mentioned it...

https://kdvr.com/2014/09/10/report-b...odell-era/amp/

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/son-of...stic-violence/

Guess you should boycott the Broncos, too.
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Old 01-26-2020, 01:29 AM   #37
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So, how would you answer those questions?
To the press: "I thought getting the straight facts are the most important thing journalists must do before reporting, correct? It seems due process is a thing of the past with the press and that all it takes is accusations not knowing the facts first in order to convict someone. Your mantra is "Guilty until proven innocent". Here is the dirty little secret for all you so-called journalists; Tyreek wasn't even charged with anything. How is someone guilty if they have never even been charged with a crime? Obviously in your world, all it takes is rumor and speculation to charge someone criminally. Very,very shameful. For once do your homework before reporting/asking questions in order to keep from embarrassing yourself and shaming the journalistic world as if it could be shamed any worse.

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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
Really? Tyreek Hill is the reason you won’t be watching? Interesting. So, guys that are found innocent of any wrongdoing really get your moral compass revved up, huh?
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
Glad your moral compass didn’t bother you when the Donkos had domestic abusers on the team during the Super Bowl years, or did you also boycott them as well??
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So, how would you answer those questions?


I'm not a PR professional. My guess is they'd want to frame everything in terms of the future. Avoid talking about any details of the incidents themselves - no one is gonna believe him if he starts going off on his ex or whatever. "I've learned a lot from counseling, and nothing is as important to me as the health and happiness of my son" kinds of stuff is probably the best route. But again, I'm not an authority on that kind of thing.
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
I’m not sure anyone believes that you’re actually this stupid/ignorant.
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He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.
Does this same logic apply to your viewing of the team in your avatar? I mean...surely you've watched Broncos games since 2013, right? Did you stop watching when Von Miller was all caught up in the slashing deaths of 5 people?
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