***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[PAChiefsGuy]

This next two-weeks are going to be brutal.

[notorious]

New York needs to grow some ****ing balls and only allow medical personnel on subways.

[Graystoke]

It’s looking like we need a bigger hammer.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

You quarantine sick people to keep them away from the healthy. This is house arrest. Call shit what it is.

Well, show us a better solution for a pathogen with a prolonged incubation period which has many asymptomatic carriers but also a high rate of hospitalization, infectiousness, and mortality.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yes and as more and more people panic and leave the areas they live in, yes I am looking at you NYC, because the powers to be will not do what is necessary to contain this virus people will start dying from "lead".

so the government won’t do what is necessary, we the people need to resolve it with “lead”?

I didn’t think people were allowed to talk like that on here, not even in the DC forum.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Hmmm, I wonder what those little pigs taste like.

https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforu...hreadid=333717

And:

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hamas what do you know about favipiravir?

https://www.ncbi..nih.gov/pubmed/28769016

[Hammock Parties]

748

jesus ****

[lewdog]

Lol at you guys thinking some dumb pharmacist knows anything.

You guys should talk to Chiefshrink on this topic.

[BigRedChief]

A terrible loss. Famed neurosurgeon Dr. James Goodrich, who separated conjoined twins, dies of coronavirus https://t.co/Cnue6u5d6k via @usatoday

— Hannan Adely (@AdelyReporter) April 1, 2020

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure what exactly can be done. Maybe require them to take a test and if they come back negative then no harm no foul.

So I can get a covid 19 test.

I just have to fly to NY first and then Missouri.

[HonestChieffan]

No doubt social distancing works and will continue to if we are strong enough to resist assuming it wont be "me"

Italy was/is bad, NY is worse...there is no comparison on population density and to my knowledge no one in Italy uses a subway. NYC is overcrowded and built around the very opposite of social distancing....The mayor is a nitwit, they have ignored facts, and people die.

Thank goodness FDA advanced the two treatments and we can get that into the mainstream. Good call by the professionals. Rapid deployment of newly discovered treatments need to happen regardless what we hear from people seeking to gain personally by re researching things to death for big bucks.

Places to avoid: in the less urban areas, stay the **** away from WalMarts..filled with ignorant entire ****ing families of nasty dirty grody kids and scummy parents. Sorry its true...

talked to a local cop today who was livid McDonalds drive through has a line all day and NO ONE in the place has rubber gloves, workers wiping hands on pants or aprons...stay away from fast food joints..for that matter, all this happy shit of your fav place doing carry out? Ponder that..you have no idea whats happening inside, who has been exposed to who who is fixing your nasty carryout hoping you feel good cause you did a nice thing?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yep. Just stunning figures. I wish NYC had taken it more seriously. Maybe next time.

I wish everyone everywhere had taken it more seriously.

The country's response could have been better but six months ago I would not have thought stay at home orders would have got the compliance they did.

Given the comments on this thread, I'm dubious about compliance going forward.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

talked to a local cop today who was livid McDonalds drive through has a line all day and NO ONE in the place has rubber gloves, workers wiping hands on pants or aprons...stay away from fast food joints..for that matter, all this happy shit of your fav place doing carry out? Ponder that..you have no idea whats happening inside, who has been exposed to who who is fixing your nasty carryout hoping you feel good cause you did a nice thing?

Unless they are putting new gloves on all the time I don't really see what gloves do. You can touch your face or wipe your hands on your pants with gloves.

I would have more faith if they had a big jug of sanitizer that they were trained to frequently use.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

748

jesus ****

748 what ?