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Old 10-19-2017, 10:12 PM  
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Fire Bob Sutton
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:00 PM   #2446
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Good God look at 59 & 38 on that play. That's PATHETIC.
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The defensive line is terrible against the run. It all starts there.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:01 PM   #2448
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Good God look at 59 & 38 on that play. That's PATHETIC.
The play was screwed before the ball was even snapped. 95 was in the wrong place.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:02 PM   #2449
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Good ****ing God. Is Ragland that stupid? You know Ford is responsible for the edge and you just give up the middle of the field.

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Old 12-11-2018, 12:03 PM   #2450
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It seems to me that our defensive line improved against the run when Chris Jones went out and Williams, Nnadi were in.
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Good ****ing God. Is Ragland that stupid? You know Ford is responsible for the edge and you just give up the middle of the field.

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Therein lies my problem with Sutton and why needs to go. Ragland and Parker in no way should be starting.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:06 PM   #2452
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It's Bob's scheme of the defense that's awful.

Bob has a poor mentality of "wait and see" with the linebackers and safeties. Because of that way of thinking, we don't attack.

With 53, 59 & 38 not being the best players, by the time they identify plays, it's too late.
Oh.

So it's your position that we should have safeties and ILB's who aren't asked to identify plays, eh?

Just pick a spot and run to it. **** what the ballcarriers or blockers are doing - just run somewhere.

You realize that doing this is exactly what is getting us in trouble as often as not, yes? It's Parker blowing coverage by failing to just get in his !@#$ing zone. Or it's Hitchens leaving his to chase the ballcarrier only to see the ballcarrier cut back into where he was supposed to be. It's Ragland trying to 'flow' with the runningback only to get beat to the edge or if he manages to get there, get dragged 3 yards.

Jesus, you people keep saying this and every single time I ask for ANY evidence of it...{crickets}

Please demonstrate the difference between our system and others. Do you really think the Ravens were just having their ILBs blast downfield Sunday? Of course they weren't - they were doing the same thing we were. A notable difference being that we don't present as credible an outside run threat so they didn't have to worry about contain as much. It allowed them to be less outside cautious and it really made it easier for their DEs to set the edges and turn everything inside. At that point their 'flow' time was reduced and the plays were much easier. Meanwhile we had to remain outside conscious because of the threat of Jackson pulling the ball and going wide. It opened up gaps up the middle and our ILBs were where they were supposed to be, they simply weren't powerful enough at the point of attack.

And had you just had them run-blitzing the A and B gaps all day, Jackson just keeps it and murders you to the outside.

This is just so mind-numbingly tiresome. Just day after day after day of unsupported nebulous horseshit from folks that lack the chops to actually marshall a !@#$ing argument.

Read and react....jesus. Yeah, you're right - we're the only team that has its defense change what it does based on the offense. Everyone else just plays Tecmo Bowl and guess what the play is gonna be beforehand.

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It seems to me that our defensive line improved against the run when Chris Jones went out and Williams, Nnadi were in.
Actually, this.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:09 PM   #2454
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Sutton isn’t even that bad. We are number 1 in the league in sacks and we rarely rush the passer. It is just our players who suck so bad. Especially the two safeties
Wait, so we lead the league in sacks without blitzing but our players suck? We lead the league in sacks without Bob Sutton doing a damn thing. He just sits there and forces our defenders to win the hard way.

Bob Sutton sucks, his scheme sucks, his adjustments suck, his player development sucks

Seattle rebuilt their defense and they are already lightyears better than us.

Our defensive coaches are terrible, they can't develop shit.
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Actually, this.
Not happening against the Chargers.
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Oh.

So it's your position that we should have safeties and ILB's who aren't asked to identify plays, eh?

Just pick a spot and run to it. **** what the ballcarriers or blockers are doing - just run somewhere.

You realize that doing this is exactly what is getting us in trouble as often as not, yes? It's Parker blowing coverage by failing to just get in his !@#$ing zone. Or it's Hitchens leaving his to chase the ballcarrier only to see the ballcarrier cut back into where he was supposed to be. It's Ragland trying to 'flow' with the runningback only to get beat to the edge or if he manages to get there, get dragged 3 yards.

Jesus, you people keep saying this and every single time I ask for ANY evidence of it...{crickets}

Please demonstrate the difference between our system and others. Do you really think the Ravens were just having their ILBs blast downfield Sunday? Of course they weren't - they were doing the same thing we were. A notable difference being that we don't present as credible an outside run threat so they didn't have to worry about contain as much. It allowed them to be less outside cautious and it really made it easier for their DEs to set the edges and turn everything inside. At that point their 'flow' time was reduced and the plays were much easier. Meanwhile we had to remain outside conscious because of the threat of Jackson pulling the ball and going wide. It opened up gaps up the middle and our ILBs were where they were supposed to be, they simply weren't powerful enough at the point of attack.

And had you just had them run-blitzing the A and B gaps all day, Jackson just keeps it and murders you to the outside.

This is just so mind-numbingly tiresome. Just day after day after day of unsupported nebulous horseshit from folks that lack the chops to actually marshall a !@#$ing argument.

Read and react....jesus. Yeah, you're right - we're the only team that has its defense change what it does based on the offense. Everyone else just plays Tecmo Bowl and guess what the play is gonna be beforehand.

In the video above, did you see Parker identify the play? If so, was it before or after the TE was taking him out of the play?

Just curious....
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Oh.

So it's your position that we should have safeties and ILB's who aren't asked to identify plays, eh?

Just pick a spot and run to it. **** what the ballcarriers or blockers are doing - just run somewhere.

You realize that doing this is exactly what is getting us in trouble as often as not, yes? It's Parker blowing coverage by failing to just get in his !@#$ing zone. Or it's Hitchens leaving his to chase the ballcarrier only to see the ballcarrier cut back into where he was supposed to be. It's Ragland trying to 'flow' with the runningback only to get beat to the edge or if he manages to get there, get dragged 3 yards.

Jesus, you people keep saying this and every single time I ask for ANY evidence of it...{crickets}

Please demonstrate the difference between our system and others. Do you really think the Ravens were just having their ILBs blast downfield Sunday? Of course they weren't - they were doing the same thing we were. A notable difference being that we don't present as credible an outside run threat so they didn't have to worry about contain as much. It allowed them to be less outside cautious and it really made it easier for their DEs to set the edges and turn everything inside. At that point their 'flow' time was reduced and the plays were much easier. Meanwhile we had to remain outside conscious because of the threat of Jackson pulling the ball and going wide. It opened up gaps up the middle and our ILBs were where they were supposed to be, they simply weren't powerful enough at the point of attack.

And had you just had them run-blitzing the A and B gaps all day, Jackson just keeps it and murders you to the outside.

This is just so mind-numbingly tiresome. Just day after day after day of unsupported nebulous horseshit from folks that lack the chops to actually marshall a !@#$ing argument.

Read and react....jesus. Yeah, you're right - we're the only team that has its defense change what it does based on the offense. Everyone else just plays Tecmo Bowl and guess what the play is gonna be beforehand.

Also, as someone else stated, Ford has the EDGE with nobody in front of the RB. Why is Ragland going for the QB?

Dude, take a lap.
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Also, as someone else stated, Ford has the EDGE with nobody in front of the RB. Why is Ragland going for the QB?

Dude, take a lap.
Do you REALLY think Bob Sutton told Ragland to do that?
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Actually, this.
Is Chris Jones abandoning his run assignment so he can keep his sack streak alive?
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