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Old 02-06-2019, 01:55 PM  
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Gronkowski mulling retirement

If Gronk retires...that offense is done.

Will Rob Gronkowski retire? Why the Patriots star's decision isn't easy

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-decision-easy

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When asked whether he had just played his last game, Gronkowski deferred.

"Tonight's about celebrating with our teammates," he said. "That decision will be made in a week or two."

Someone mentioned a hit he took during the game -- in the second quarter, he collided with a pair of Rams defenders after a short catch -- and he replied quickly, "Yeah, my quad. It hurts a lot. I can barely walk right now." He added, his delivery more deadpan than joyful: "But it's all good, because we're Super Bowl champs."

After the hit, Gronkowski, who played every snap, staggered off the field. Whenever he suffers a blow -- he has endured more than most players, in part because his gigantic frame makes it difficult for defenders to tackle him any other way -- he limps like a cinematic monster hobbled by arrows. The effect is similarly heartbreaking. Gronkowski had surgery on his spine before entering the league (explaining why the Patriots were able to snag him in the second round), and he has experienced a litany of painful injuries and operations over the years. This season, he missed three regular-season games, reportedly because he was suffering from Achilles tendinitis and a bulging disc in his back.

Earlier in the week, he acknowledged how difficult it has been for him to come back at times.

"Try to imagine getting hit all the time, and trying to be where you want every day in life," he said. "It's tough. It's difficult. To take hits to the thigh, to take hits to your head, abusing your body ... isn't what the brain wants."

After his news conference at the Super Bowl, Gronkowski trudged to the locker room, where he started peeling his pads off. As a staffer pulled his nametag off his locker (empty, save for a roll of tube socks and a half-eaten sandwich), Tom Brady's personal trainer, Alex Guerrero, walked over and gently unwrapped the tape on his arm. While his teammates sprayed champagne and danced on one side of the room, Gronkowski was quiet -- solemn, almost. A reporter asked him where he was partying, and he muttered in response: "We'll see, we'll see."

When he had changed into a towel, the large scar on his shoulder shiny with sweat, it was evident that his right thigh was absurdly swollen, to the point where it looked bloated. His movements were halting. I asked him if he was looking forward to the offseason -- potentially, the rest of his life -- and he smiled softly, "I'm super excited to just chill."
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:40 PM   #46
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Yeah because that is toms only legit elite talent besides Edelman lmao. Imagine if bill actually tried to make toms life easier
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:53 PM   #47
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If he retires, they'll plug someone else in. The only way that dynasty ends is if Tom or Bellichek retire. Face it fellas, we're gonna have to just beat these ****ers. Almost did it twice this year. With a little better defense and Mahommes getting his stride...we got this. With or without Gronk. But don't count out the damn Patriots. It's just not smart...
They have plenty of draft picks. They have an extra 2nd and 3rd and might get some compensatory picks for guys they lost. They often seem to trade back and accumulate picks, but if they want to draft a TE they'll have the picks to do whatever they want.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:03 PM   #48
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:12 PM   #49
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I want the Pats with all their weapons next year while Mahomes and spags unleash the fury the league is about to witness.
I want the Pats with none of their weapons next year. I want them to go 0-16 and lose every game by 40 points unless they're playing the Broncos, Raiders, or Chargers, in which case I may or may not want them to win, depending on the playoff scenarios.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:52 PM   #50
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Not if criminally ****ing reeruned defensive coordinators don't start taking away the short throws and making his old ass beat them deep. It won't be a problem at all.

GOD **** Bob Sutton.
It's not about the deep throws. Brady can throw it deep. It's about throwing outside the numbers. That's what defenses need to do. Wade Phillips did exactly that for a lot of the game.
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:38 AM   #51
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It's not about the deep throws. Brady can throw it deep. It's about throwing outside the numbers. That's what defenses need to do. Wade Phillips did exactly that for a lot of the game.
It's about not giving him the easy shit because he won't miss that. Just like any defensive strategy SHOULD - challenge the offense to do what they don't do well.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:36 AM   #53
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I think he’s retiring, unless Brady convinces him to do one more season.
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It's about not giving him the easy shit because he won't miss that. Just like any defensive strategy SHOULD - challenge the offense to do what they don't do well.
You mean giving the receivers a 10 yard cushion every play and letting them run free wasnt working?
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Also is Gronk really a HoFer. He played his entire career with one of the best QBs to ever play.

Gronkowski career stats 9 years playing
521 rec 7861 yds 15.1 avg 79 tds

Jimmy Graham career stats 9 years playing
611 rec 7436 yds 12.2 avg 71 tds

If you think old Rob is a HoFer then you have to think Jim is too.
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No it wasn't. You're blind as **** if you think Gronkowski's blocking was good this season. Watch that 1st Bills game on Monday Night Football and tell me if you thought Gronkowski looked right. He wasn't able to wham block 300 pound lineman anymore. He was losing blocks against edge defenders. He looked old and broken down even in blocking when he was hurting. He looked like the tight ends of this generation who couldn't block if their lives depended on it.

He wans't right alot of the season, but by the playoffs he was blocking at an elite level.
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We beat that team.

Except that you didn't because your guy's (Ford's) mistake cancelled out our guy's (Gronk and/or Brady, as you wish to divide responsibility between them) mistake.

This whole "we won if we didn't **** up because our **** up cancelled their **** up" argument doesn't make much sense. Yeah, your guy ****ed up, which cancelled our guy's **** up. But why should your guy not have ****ed up, but our guy should still have ****ed up? Kinda dumb tbh.
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I imagine Belicheat will just sign some undersized Tackle and work on his hands a bit.

That's pretty much all Gronk was this year, and they're obviously committed to at least having the power run game as an option.

It's my understanding that injuries were a big part of that. In the SB he had nearly 100 yards receiving and was very good blocking. If he comes back, and if he has a healthy year, then he should once again be among the best TEs in the NFL, if not THE best.
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Except that you didn't because your guy's (Ford's) mistake cancelled out our guy's (Gronk and/or Brady, as you wish to divide responsibility between them) mistake.

This whole "we won if we didn't **** up because our **** up cancelled their **** up" argument doesn't make much sense. Yeah, your guy ****ed up, which cancelled our guy's **** up. But why should your guy not have ****ed up, but our guy should still have ****ed up? Kinda dumb tbh.
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Jermaine Wiggins is all I got. Ben Watson came a little later.

That's pretty damn good. Fauria (who someone else named) and Daniel Graham (pretty much a bust of a first round pick) are others.

Then there's that murderer guy. I prefer not to speak about him...

And of course Martellus Bennett. Short stay but big contributor.
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