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Old 12-09-2022, 06:34 AM  
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AZ Senator Kristen Sinema leaves Democrat Party-goes to Independent
Heard no rumblings out here that this was even being considered.

Something obviously happened after the election to either sour her to the Dems or this could be a maneuver for 2024 since many more Dem seats are up for reelection that the Republicans.

Have not heard if she will caucus with the Dems but initial word is she probably won't.

She is very independent in her stances.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:38 AM   #2
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Good for her, the dems treated her like a pariah any time she stepped out of line
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:44 AM   #3
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Good for her, the dems treated her like a pariah any time she stepped out of line
Yeah for sure. By all accounts they treated her like shit.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:45 AM   #4
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The only reason Manchin gets respect is he has been there long enough to be appreciated by enough of both teams plus he don't give a ****.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:50 AM   #5
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Old 12-09-2022, 07:02 AM   #6
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Yeah for sure. By all accounts they treated her like shit.
Dems hate it when you escape the plantation
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Old 12-09-2022, 07:14 AM   #7
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Dems hate it when you escape the plantation
To be fair, both parties treat members who step out of the party line pretty terribly. Though I'd give the edge for worst treatment of non-conformists to the Democrats.

I'm a big fan of Sinema. Hot, smart, and independent in thought and deed. Further left on most things than I'll ever be, but she is certainly considerably more principled than the vast majority of her congressional fellows.
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To be fair, both parties treat members who step out of the party line pretty terribly. Though I'd give the edge for worst treatment of non-conformists to the Democrats.

I'm a big fan of Sinema. Hot, smart, and independent in thought and deed. Further left on most things than I'll ever be, but she is certainly considerably more principled than the vast majority of her congressional fellows.
Agreed for sure
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To be fair, both parties treat members who step out of the party line pretty terribly. Though I'd give the edge for worst treatment of non-conformists to the Democrats.

I'm a big fan of Sinema. Hot, smart, and independent in thought and deed. Further left on most things than I'll ever be, but she is certainly considerably more principled than the vast majority of her congressional fellows.
No way is she gonna get treated as bad as McCain
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Heard no rumblings out here that this was even being considered.

Something obviously happened after the election to either sour her to the Dems or this could be a maneuver for 2024 since many more Dem seats are up for reelection that the Republicans.

Have not heard if she will caucus with the Dems but initial word is she probably won't.

She is very independent in her stances.
She's independent on some stances—not all her stances.
I wouldn't say she's a limited govt type though. I know Independents that are just Democrats, some that are moderate but Republican leaning and some that are conservatives. The label alone tells you nothing—just that they break from party labels.
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The only reason Manchin gets respect is he has been there long enough to be appreciated by enough of both teams plus he don't give a ****.
He just may be toast now when he caved into Bill Gates.
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She's always been much more independent than the rest of the Dem Senate besides Manchin, but the truth is she is doing this as blackmail. Everyone knows the Dems will primary her in 2024, so as soon as that becomes official, she is going to go order 66 on the Dems' agenda.
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She's always been much more independent than the rest of the Dem Senate besides Manchin, but the truth is she is doing this as blackmail. Everyone knows the Dems will primary her in 2024, so as soon as that becomes official, she is going to go order 66 on the Dems' agenda.
Everyone? I didn't know.

You mean the radical Demo-Bolshviks want to do that.
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Everyone? I didn't know.

You mean the radical Demo-Bolshviks want to do that.
She is hugely underwater with AZ Dems.
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Unimpressed.

The 2 party system is garbage and she sometimes chooses to deny a victory for her "side".

Has she ever truly went against the machine on war, corporate crime, the security state?


Maybe she did and I missed it?
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