What if the refs called a penalty on Sorensen

[chiefzilla1501]

OK, this really bothers me. Browns fans are arguing that this was a game changing call and that one called back TD was the difference in a 5 point win. OK, fair point. Not calling helmet to helmet may have been a miss.

The biggest game changer as we all know wasn't the fumble, it was mahomes getting injured. Mahomes was throttling the browns and probably would have kept doing it. Would mahomes have still gotten a concussion if the browns scored? I mean, cmon.... Probably not. Here's a more likely scenario. If browns score 7, chiefs get the ball back and score 3.chiefs go into halftime 19 - 10. Browns down 9 (instead of 16) have to claw from behind

Unless people think the browns run the same exact plays in that scenario, baker throws that same exact pick, then the Chiefs run the same exact plays with the same exact outcome its very unlikely mahomes gets knocked out of that series.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DCTwister

On this, I would scientifically invoke the grandfather paradox from Back to the Future or Infinity War. If they penalized Dan, let’s say go into the half 16-10. Changes the sequence of plays the entire rest of the game. Hence, Mahomes freak choke-out/concussion play never happens. KC dominates the rest of the game with Mahomes.

This is easily the most important what if scenario.

[RedinTexas]

If you're going to play the what-if game here, the question is more properly, "what if the ball carrier hadn't tried to stick the ball over the goal line?" The browns were moving the ball and the ball carrier had already gotten the first down. If he had just taken the tackle they would have had a first and goal very close to the goal line. This Browns team with the great running attack surely would have been able to push it across, so why would he feel the need to stick the ball out where it was vulnerable?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

If you're going to play the what-if game here, the question is more properly, "what if the ball carrier hadn't tried to stick the ball over the goal line?" The browns were moving the ball and the ball carrier had already gotten the first down. If he had just taken the tackle they would have had a first and goal very close to the goal line. This Browns team with the great running attack surely would have been able to push it across, so why would he feel the need to stick the ball out where it was vulnerable?

Stefanski specifically said he coaches his players not to do it. He politely defended Higgins, but it showed he understands the rules and realizes his guy took a huge risk.

[displacedinMN]

talking about it again on Get Up. gag on all of them.

Sorenson was protecting the line. They had an entire half of game to win.

Go Chiefs.

[morphius]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

You see running backs do it all the time. They drop their head and plow ahead.

Exactly! Why is only one considered dangerous...

Again, they can play what if on this play all they want, I believe their was a huge holding call not called on the OL that should have brought the play back. So the what if machine could have called both penalties, it would have been a wash...

[redfan]

If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by morphius

Exactly! Why is only one considered dangerous...

Again, they can play what if on this play all they want, I believe their was a huge holding call not called on the OL that should have brought the play back. So the what if machine could have called both penalties, it would have been a wash...

IN your scenario if both were called as penalties, the Browns still would of had the ball however. But its cool. The better team won regardless. Just please beat the Bills. I cant stand them.

[O.city]

I don't know what Sorenson is supposed to do there. Go flying superman style with arms out?

It's a bang bang play on the goal line. Collisions happen.

[stevieray]

It was funny watching Cowher etc bleed out over it, calling for a rule change during the game.

[bobhill]

It looked Shoulder to shoulder then is momentum in the downword angle made his helmet maybe touch the other guys helmet that I don't know

[JD10367]

For everyone else it's luck or cheating or a conspiracy by the NFL to keep them winning.

For you guys, it's "those are the breaks, they could've played better."

Hypocritical douchebags.

[morphius]

Originally Posted by Mav

IN your scenario if both were called as penalties, the Browns still would of had the ball however. But its cool. The better team won regardless. Just please beat the Bills. I cant stand them.

But then we have no idea if you score at all...

[ChiTown]

When the offensive player is diving running into the end zone and the defender dives running at him perpendicular, I’m not sure what people think is going to happen. This is typically the result for diving offensive players (getting helmet to helmet contact)

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by JD10367

For you guys, it's "those are the breaks, they could've played better."

Hypocritical douchebags.

Incorrect, it was the cold hard truth when we choked games away.

why are you here?

[displacedinMN]

We have until the end of the day today to dink around with this. Then move on. Let the rest of the league bitch.

Worry about Mahomes. I still think he plays.