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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 02-27-2020, 10:27 AM   #31
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:37 AM   #32
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And to think that all of this likely started because of a stupid live animal market in China.

Putting together a bunch of exotic animals in unsanitary conditions with millions of humans in crowded quarters, with the mixing/mutations of microbes and bacteria found in animal blood, flesh, saliva, etc.... what could go wrong.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:40 AM   #33
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Man, this is bogus, man. The CoronaVirus (racist name by the way because everyone knows Corona is a MEXICAN beer, this is clearly an attack on the hispanic community) was designed by Big Pharma. A Billion dollars for the Corona Vaccine?

Who stands to profit off that? Big Pharma. Big pharma created the virus and released it so they could profit off the vaccine, man.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:45 AM   #34
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:47 AM   #35
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Man, this is bogus, man. The CoronaVirus (racist name by the way because everyone knows Corona is a MEXICAN beer, this is clearly an attack on the hispanic community) was designed by Big Pharma. A Billion dollars for the Corona Vaccine?

Who stands to profit off that? Big Pharma. Big pharma created the virus and released it so they could profit off the vaccine, man.
Way to go Social Justice Warrior!
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:50 AM   #36
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Man, this is bogus, man. The CoronaVirus (racist name by the way because everyone knows Corona is a MEXICAN beer, this is clearly an attack on the hispanic community) was designed by Big Pharma. A Billion dollars for the Corona Vaccine?

Who stands to profit off that? Big Pharma. Big pharma created the virus and released it so they could profit off the vaccine, man.

I know a dude who would say almost those exact words, while wearing a 15 year old Widespread Panic T-shirt, high as f***.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:56 AM   #37
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Also those dumbshits who are wearing the surgical masks out in public deserve to get the Coronavirus (and maybe with a splash of Zika).
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:59 AM   #38
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:02 AM   #39
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I recently read a book called Factfulness that tries to point out all of the weird (wrong) perceptions we have about how awful the world is. One of the concepts the author puts out there is that we should always be skeptical of "lonely numbers" - numbers that sound really bad, but we don't have any context for.

This is definitely a time for that. While 2,814 deaths from Coronavirus sounds bad, the flu kills between 291,000 and 646,000 each year, so we're nowhere near that level for now. It's just a question of how long it'll keep growing as fast as it is now.

The book also points out another common issue - people always assume that things will keep growing linearly. At some point, the spreading will taper off either due to human intervention or just because most of the vulnerable people have already been infected. It's just a matter of how long it takes us to get to that point.
Yup. it right now looks like a more contagious, more harmful version of the flu. That shouldn't undermine the emergency and clearly it's much much more of a public concern than the flu. But it's not ebola.

But yeah, a lot of the numbers are influenced by systems woefully unprepared for this. The disease will eventually be better detected, treated, and prevented. The areas that should be most concerned are areas with lousy public health infrastructure. It could mutate into something much worse but I'll worry about that only if we get there.
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Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
Where exactly did you get this?
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It's just like this game Pandemic 2. The goal of this game is to create a virus that spreads around the world creating a pandemic and kills the population of the world. I can get every country but Madagascar they seem most safe unless that's where it originates.

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Meh, at worst it will just build up my immunity.
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People are going to freak out that I posted this. But it's 100% accurate. Unless testing and treatment are free (IE - no surprise out of network bills for 10s or 100s of $1000s), we're going to have a big problem.

https://www.businessinsider.com/miam...ousands-2020-2

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Last month, Osmel Martinez Azcue, a Miami resident, returned from a work trip in China with flu-like symptoms. He visited the hospital to make sure he didn't have the coronavirus, the Miami Herald reported.

Azcue had the flu, not the coronavirus. But he has limited insurance coverage and received a claim for $3,270 two weeks after his test. He'll be responsible for about $1,400 of that bill, according to the Herald.
How many people are going to self-report under these conditions? The former head of Eli-Lily just told congress that tests and vaccines are going to remain very expensive. The drug industry is seeing massive $$$ over this.

Good luck rolling the dice and finding out what your insurance covers and what it doesn't. A friend of mine just got a surprise bill for $10k a year after his kid was in the NICU. The hospital was in network but a doc working the floor wasn't (billed as an independent contractor of course). Lot's of people who think they have great insurance will find out they don't.
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