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Old 09-23-2021, 12:23 PM  
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Rumblings of a possible deal for Detroit Collins?
Let's trade Frank Clark for him straight up!
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:06 PM   #46
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I’d think if they added Collins the Chiefs would either be looking to use him as a LE in the 4man base alignment (Clark-Nnadi/Reed-Jones-Collins) or stand him up in a odd set, with Clark and Jones playing 5tech roles and Gay and Collins as your outside backers (335 look, basically).

It would give Spagnuolo some versatility in his defensive alignment and an odd front might let them maximize Jones’ skillset while making best use of what Clark is now. We’ve seen him stand a DE up a bit, but traditionally he likes those 4-man down lineups. Not sure it works.

It definitely would improve their matchup against teams that are looking to use their QB in the run game. Not sure it helps against a more traditional team like the Browns.

Though it would hopefully mean Ben Niemann is no longer an option except in case of injury at LB, so there’s that…
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:12 PM   #47
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Old 09-23-2021, 04:10 PM   #48
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Do you bring Foster in to bolster our stable of brokedick degenerates?
Was there ever a conclusion on his degenerate status? My memory was the first thing was overblown and I don't recall if there was a second thing.

But he was damn good as a rookie.

Bring everyone in. All of 'em. If they're actually defensive ends (not these undersized glorified under-tackles) or linebackers that can play linebacker and not just !@#$ing special teams.

Tell Dave Toub that he's one of the highest paid STs coordinators in the game - that means he doesn't get to have 5 toys on the roster and is going to have to coach up what he has. We aren't carrying this many STs only players anymore because our defense sucks goat-ass.
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Old 09-23-2021, 04:54 PM   #49
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Was there ever a conclusion on his degenerate status? My memory was the first thing was overblown and I don't recall if there was a second thing.

But he was damn good as a rookie.

Bring everyone in. All of 'em. If they're actually defensive ends (not these undersized glorified under-tackles) or linebackers that can play linebacker and not just !@#$ing special teams.

Tell Dave Toub that he's one of the highest paid STs coordinators in the game - that means he doesn't get to have 5 toys on the roster and is going to have to coach up what he has. We aren't carrying this many STs only players anymore because our defense sucks goat-ass.
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Old 09-23-2021, 09:57 PM   #51
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Maybe I'm alone in this, but the run stats so far don't worry me that much. We played the top running team in the NFL in Week 1, and the Ravens are basically nothing but a running team. They're strong teams, but this is our first loss to either team in the Mahomes era, and it was headed toward a win until the fumble. Let's let Spagnuolo observe and scheme before we make any abrupt moves.
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Old 09-23-2021, 09:59 PM   #52
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wonderful idea though. trading away our only real DE
Does it really matter?

Frank might have 2-3 games where he shows up and looks like a top half DE
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Does it really matter?

Frank might have 2-3 games where he shows up and looks like a top half DE
It very much does not.

He's a street free agent caliber player at this point. Remember back when were were picking up guys like Jason Babin in-season?

He probably gave us about what we can expect from The Shart going forward.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:15 PM   #54
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He's terrible in coverage, and everything you read coming out of Detroit suggests a lack of effort.

No thanks.
Everybody thats ever played in Detroit played below their abilities , Barry Sanders even quit in his prime.
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Everybody thats ever played in Detroit played below their abilities , Barry Sanders even quit in his prime.
and Calvin Johnson could have put up a few more 1200+ yd seasons easily
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Weird, because I like Detroiters a good deal.
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It very much does not.

He's a street free agent caliber player at this point. Remember back when were were picking up guys like Jason Babin in-season?

He probably gave us about what we can expect from The Shart going forward.
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