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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

A couple of reminders...

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 06-29-2020, 10:16 PM   #36991
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Some of that is just the internet. I mean let's be real, there are people in this thread who are legitimately mentally ill because of politics. They have planted their flag in the ground and they aren't going to move. That's the internet.

It was all fun and games when it first started. Now 125,000 people are dead and people are making the same arguments and think it's not a big deal. You'd say it's unbelievable but I guess it's not. A complete lack of compassion for their country or other people. Only for themselves.
That's really ****ing sad.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:20 PM   #36992
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Some of that is just the internet. I mean let's be real, there are people in this thread who are legitimately mentally ill because of politics. They have planted their flag in the ground and they aren't going to move. That's the internet.

It was all fun and games when it first started. Now 125,000 people are dead and people are making the same arguments and think it's not a big deal. You'd say it's unbelievable but I guess it's not. A complete lack of compassion for their country or other people. Only for themselves.
Ah so when the media encourages "protests" but bashes an outdoor country music concert, for reasons other than it's country music, they aren't a part of it all?

I don't necessarily disagree with your post but let's not pretend that our media and some of our leaders choose to bash certain things while turning a blind eye to others when both are tantamount to the same thing that we are all supposed to be afraid of.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:21 PM   #36993
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Ah so when the media encourages "protests" but bashes a country music concert, for reasons other than it's country music, they aren't a part of it all?

I don't necessarily disagree with your post but let's not pretend that our media and some of our leaders choose to bash certain things while turning a blind eye to others when both are tantamount to the same thing that we are all supposed to be afraid of.
The media isn't doing this right, I agree, they are underplaying it. 125,000 people are dead. This thing should be in big flashing numbers flying over our heads every single day.

But it's just old people, so who cares. Even though it's not.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:26 PM   #36994
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Which figure leads you to that conclusion?
The percentages at the bottom of the study listed in the tables. I may not be reading them correctly. That's why I asked for some assistance.

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Old 06-29-2020, 10:26 PM   #36995
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I think that's part of it, but I also think that the internet has created this world in which everyone has a take, and their voices hold near equal weight to those who actually are experts. Fifty years ago, all you could really do would be to listen to your government leaders because who the **** else are you going to ask what they think we should be doing. Today, just think about how much information you know about this situation and where it came from. I guarantee a majority of it came from random people who don't have a clue what they're talking about. That's created a world in which conspiracy theories are given way more attention than they deserve, which then creates more distrust in expertise, which then gives more attention to conspiracy theories....

Add in a nice dose of many leaders contradicting each other, and it's a recipe for everyone saying "**** it." That has consequences, as we're seeing now, but it's not hard to see how we got here.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:28 PM   #36996
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The media isn't underplaying this. 125,000 people are dead. This thing should be in big flashing numbers flying over our heads every single day.

But it's just old people, so who cares. Even though it's not.
And I posted a study yesterday that said at least half of those deaths are linked to nursing homes. Who put sick people into nursing homes? We could have avoided a lot of those deaths. So let's not act like people just got sick and died and there was nothing that could have been done about it.

And the fact you need to finish your post with a straw man pretty much indicates you know you're bordering on talking shit. It's a bunk straw man and it's bullshit people say when they know they are out of other things to support their take.

You don't get to blame people for being selfish when a Governor allows a person with Covid to be put into or back into a nursing home where just about everyone there is high risk.

So you want to know why people are "selfish" as you put it? Because one day mass riots are being condoned and the next hair cuts are being bashed by the very same people. When your supposed care of the situation is selectively applied then what the **** do you expect from people?
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:28 PM   #36997
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The media isn't doing this right, I agree, they are underplaying it. 125,000 people are dead. This thing should be in big flashing numbers flying over our heads every single day.

But it's just old people, so who cares. Even though it's not.
Actually it is pretty much just old people. If it wasn't things would be treated much differently.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:30 PM   #36998
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Actually it is pretty much just old people. If it wasn't things would be treated much differently.
I'm sure they appreciate your concern.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:33 PM   #36999
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I'm sure they appreciate your concern.
It is what it is. If younger kids were as vulnerable there would not be all the youth sports and schools starting back up soon. Things would look much different. 80 year olds dying abd 8 year olds dying doesn't have the same impact.
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I'm sure they appreciate your concern.
He has a point. I mean seriously, what do you think the reaction would be say putting a Covid person into say a school vs. a nursing home? When roughly 60,000 deaths are linked to nursing homes meaning both residents and staff and you have Governors who knowingly allowed that to happen you have to wonder how many people died of Covid that might not have? How many people died of Covid because our state leaders (Governors) made some stupid, brain dead decisions?

You and I are not medical experts but I think we both know you don't put a person with a contagious disease in the middle of a bunch of old, sick people and expect things to work out.

But God damn it don't you go get your ****ing hair cut!!!!
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It is what it is. If younger kids were as vulnerable there would not be all the youth sports and schools starting back up soon. Things would look much different.
Are you positive this isn’t reducing the life expectancy of kids who get it?
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Are you positive this isn’t reducing the life expectancy of kids who get it?
Okay, that is a bunk argument. You might as well live in perpetual fear if that's your take.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:39 PM   #37003
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Okay, that is a bunk argument. You might as well live in perpetual fear if that's your take.
Have a link that debunks it?
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Are you positive this isn’t reducing the life expectancy of kids who get it?
You mean like drinking too many large cokes?
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Have a link that debunks it?
You have definitive proof it does?
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