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Old 02-19-2019, 04:12 PM  
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:03 AM   #31
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Then just sign him. Anything less than a Super Bowl berth in 2019 is a failure.

If they HAVE to keep Ford, give him a deal, make the 2019 cap hit low, sign some free agents, and worry about 2020 after winning the Super Bowl.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:03 AM   #32
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We can probably pay both Ford and Houston by cutting Berry.

He is my choice to cut instead of Ford and Houston.

Of course, a contract adjustment on Houston also helps. But Houston is perfect for our new defense and will finally get to rush the passer and set the edge, rather than dropping back in coverage half (or more) of the time.
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Well, the tag makes sense to see how Ford looks in the new defense, and if it makes his run liability even more of a liability.
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We can probably pay both Ford and Houston by cutting Berry.

He is my choice to cut instead of Ford and Houston.
They're not going to cut Berry. They love him. I'd be shocked.

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Of course, a contract adjustment on Houston also helps. But Houston is perfect for our new defense and will finally get to rush the passer and set the edge, rather than dropping back in coverage half (or more) of the time.
Houston has never in his entire career been in coverage more than 25% of snaps.
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Well, the tag makes sense to see how Ford looks in the new defense, and if it makes his run liability even more of a liability.
So after being 1 play away from the Super Bowl in 2018, 2019 is an experimental season? Let's play around and see if he fits?
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So after being 1 play away from the Super Bowl in 2018, 2019 is an experimental season? Let's play around and see if he fits?
So, should they not have changed up the defense?
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So, should they not have changed up the defense?
I'm all for change.

I'm not for building a defense around a guy that can't stay healthy.
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I'm all for change.

I'm not for building a defense around a guy that can't stay healthy.
A one year franchise tag is building around one guy?
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A one year franchise tag is building around one guy?
If the goal is a Super Bowl in 2019, dedicating $15M in cap space to a guy that has never demonstrated the ability to stay healthy isn't a good idea. It's that simple.
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Houston has never in his entire career been in coverage more than 25% of snaps.
It probably just seems like more because 50% of the time he is, it's a replay highlight for the other team converting a first down.
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We can either pay a dude who is 3 years older than Ford with worse injury history and less production....or pay Ford.

It's as simple as that.
This.
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This will be another bad move by Veach. Ford is not worth 15 mil at all.
One guy can't do it all. He had zero stats in the big game and he is too damn stupid to line up right.
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And if you really want to get into it:

Last 37 games

Dee Ford - 25 sacks

Justin Houston - 26 sacks

And in the last three seasons, Ford has played in 37 games vs Houston's 32.

It is what it is.

They have to pay Ford.
As I mentioned in the other thread, it depends on what the goal is. I don’t think either one of these guys is here in 2020.

You have two options:

Option A: cut Houston, save money, franchise Ford and take a 3rd rd comp later on.

Option B: Keep Houston (hopefully at a restructured rate) for one more year, trade Ford for a 1st or 2nd rd pick in the draft in 2 months, then cut Houston in 2020 to save $17.5 million to only $1.5 million in dead money.

I’ve wanted to keep Ford, but I’d be lying if I wouldn’t take option B after looking at the bigger picture.
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We can probably pay both Ford and Houston by cutting Berry.

He is my choice to cut instead of Ford and Houston.

Of course, a contract adjustment on Houston also helps. But Houston is perfect for our new defense and will finally get to rush the passer and set the edge, rather than dropping back in coverage half (or more) of the time.

Houston only fits as a RDE, same as Ford.

He's not a SAM unless you want to see him in coverage more than not. 4-3 linebackers cover more than rush.
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As I mentioned in the other thread, it depends on what the goal is. I don’t think either one of these guys is here in 2020.

You have two options:

Option A: cut Houston, save money, franchise Ford and take a 3rd rd comp later on.

Option B: Keep Houston (hopefully at a restructured rate) for one more year, trade Ford for a 1st or 2nd rd pick in the draft in 2 months, then cut Houston in 2020 to save $17.5 million to only $1.5 million in dead money.

I’ve wanted to keep Ford, but I’d be lying if I wouldn’t take option B after looking at the bigger picture.
It beats option C which is signing Ford to a long term deal.
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