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Guilty! Now for the Trial - Donald Trump Impeachment Show Trial Thread


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Old 11-13-2019, 11:30 AM   #106
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So you are saying that Obama, the Brits, Germans, EU and the IMF all wanted to protect Hunter?

Have you considered that if that is the case, Joe's threat is amazingly obvious?
Yes and yes.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:31 AM   #107
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*Groan*

It's not 2nd hand or 3rd hand.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...tZJ/story.html
"anti corruption statement".
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:31 AM   #108
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:31 AM   #109
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Of course this was a quid pro quo.
I remember when this all broke and Trumpers repeated Trump's declaration of "NO QUID PRO QUO!"

Good times.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #110
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So here is what you have in a nutshell...

WB contacts Schiff
Schiff lies about it
Schiff starts "inquiry"
Schiff lies about the President's transcript in his opening statement of a hearing (very, very unethical)
Schiff holds closed door meetings to vet the witnesses he wants to call later
Schiff calls said vetted witnesses in open hearings
Schiff dictats what witnesses and questions the R's can call and ask


And you say Trump is hiding or lying about something???



Schiff is the same guy that stepped all over himself and lied about several things during the failed Russia witch hunt.

Magically he is right in the middle of this now.

He should have recused himself from the off since he lied about not having any contact with the WB.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #111
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I remember when this all broke and Trumpers repeated Trump's declaration of "NO QUID PRO QUO!"

Good times.
Wait, are you including me in that statement?
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #112
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Yes and yes.


Of course. An 9/11 was an inside job. Pizza!
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #113
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Wait, are you including me in that statement?
No.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #114
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That kind of personal gain is apparently OK Pete. They are not concerned about it in the least, obviously.

And they wonder why we find their outrage to be such nonsense. Its selective outrage because Orange Man Bad!!!
Ok, let's see how long ago I stated this (and have stated it many,many times since:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=139

Oh September f*king 30. Ok.

What else were you wanting me to do about it? start a march or something?
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:33 AM   #115
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So here is what you have in a nutshell...

WB contacts Schiff
Schiff lies about it
Schiff starts "inquiry"
Schiff lies about the President's transcript in his opening statement of a hearing (very, very unethical)
Schiff holds closed door meetings to vet the witnesses he wants to call later
Schiff calls said vetted witnesses in open hearings
Schiff dictats what witnesses and questions the R's can call and ask


And you say Trump is hiding or lying about something???



Schiff is the same guy that stepped all over himself and lied about several things during the failed Russia witch hunt.

Magically he is right in the middle of this now.

He should have recused himself from the off since he lied about not having any contact with the WB.
Wow, a fail right off the bat. Nice work, pete.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:34 AM   #116
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"anti corruption statement".
This is not evidence of extortion, and Trump did not tell him that, Sondland did and he has stated he doesn't know Trump's motive.

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You don't get to tie your demand to monetary extortion.
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"anti corruption statement".
Am I really now going to have to walk you through the other context where Giuliani revises the statement multiple times to clarify that a generic statement was insufficient and that other individuals knew when they were talking about corruption, they meant Biden and Burisma?

At some point you are going to need to be able to keep more than 1 piece of evidence in your head at the same time.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:35 AM   #118
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This is not evidence of extortion, and Trump did not tell him that, Sondland did and he has stated he doesn't know Trump's motive.
Want to make a bet that Sondland eventually ends up saying that Trump told him exactly that?
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:36 AM   #119
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Ok, let's see how long ago I stated this (and have stated it many,many times since:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=139

Oh September f*king 30. Ok.

What else were you wanting me to do about it? start a march or something?
This is going to sting a little, so be prepared.

If you think Biden's actions deserve investigation then you have no quarrel with Trump here. The investigation being justified means if Trump benefits politically that's just a fortune outcome and smart politics.

Its really just that simple.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:37 AM   #120
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Want to make a bet that Sondland eventually ends up saying that Trump told him exactly that?
So Sondland lied before?
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