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Old 02-05-2019, 08:59 AM  
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Dane Brugler Mock 3.0 (Chiefs picks R1/R2)

This mock is from Brugler at The Athletic. I like his analysis quite a bit, Im just posting the Chiefs selections that he suggested.

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29. Kansas City Chiefs Nasir Adderley, FS, Delaware
With cornerback feet and the required toughness at safety, Adderley projects as a starting free safety in the NFL, doing his best work from single-high. Not that it matters, but it doesnt hurt that Chiefs general manager Brett Veach is a former Delaware Blue Hen as well.

61. Kansas City Chiefs JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
Adding Arcega-Whiteside with Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelce might lock up a few more MVP awards for Patrick Mahomes.

63. Kansas City Chiefs (from Los Angeles Rams) Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky
The Chiefs found an undrafted gem with Charvarius Ward, but more cornerback depth is needed, and Johnson has the size/length they covet.
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:21 AM   #2
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I like the 1st but not a fan of the 2nd round picks at all
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:36 AM   #3
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I don't know about using the Chiefs previous likes when selecting players, they have a whole new defensive staff, or atleast I think they will.
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:43 AM   #4
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First pick is great-wouldn't go that route on the 61st or 64th picks
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:57 AM   #5
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Not sure I like the first 2nd rounder. The second 2nd-rounder seems to be a "measurables" pick - I'm not sure they'll covet that kind of size anymore with Spags in charge of the defense, at least not at the cost of other attributes.

I love the 1st round pick though.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:30 AM   #6
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Fine with Adderley and Johnson. He left Irv Smith, Mack Wilson and Deionte Thompson on the board at our 1. Devin Bush slid all the way to 44, Riley Ridley to 49 and Trayvon Mullen to 55.

I think Arcega-Whiteside is defensible at this point in the draft but just not the right fit for this team. He's another Conley sort of longer, high point kind of contested catch receiver and that's just not what Andy tends to do, IMO.

Maybe they see him as a better version of Conley and can use him in the red zone and to move the chains (probably how they HOPED to use Conley and it just didn't quite work out).

Amani Oruwariye falls all the way out of the 2nd in his mock, though. If the Chiefs had a shot to get Oruwariye and Johnson, I honestly think they'd do it. I guess I like Johnson a little more than most though. At least one of those guys will hit the field game ready to start the season and the other can push Ward to keep them all sharp.

You do have some issues with deep speed with that duo, though. I just think that Spags preference for the cover 3 will help address some of those shortcomings with scheme and you can use the length and ball-skills that both guys have to pretty good effect underneath. Forcing teams into situations where they have to challenge us downfield is the way to go, IMO. Bottle up the short shit, force QBs into riskier throws and deeper drops.

You could do that with those 2 DBs and especially with Adderley patrolling CF.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:39 AM   #7
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Walterfootball has his latest mock out. The first round pick ****ing sucks....but if the 2nd fell like he has it.....****.

29. Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
61. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
64. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan

In his mock....we would have a shot at either Irv Smith or Amani Oruwariye at the end of the 1st. Give me either of those and then that 2nd round.....and I'm ****ing ecstatic.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:46 AM   #8
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Walterfootball has his latest mock out. The first round pick ****ing sucks....but if the 2nd fell like he has it.....****.

29. Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
61. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
64. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan

In his mock....we would have a shot at either Irv Smith or Amani Oruwariye at the end of the 1st. Give me either of those and then that 2nd round.....and I'm ****ing ecstatic.
Walter Football's rankings right now are completely worthless, IMO.

There's no !@#$ing way we get Adderley and Bush at the back of the 2nd. We'd be lucky if 1 of them get there, let alone both.

If it came together like that I wonder if you could just convince whoever took Irv Smith that they'd rather have Dexter Lawrence and just make a swap. It won't, but it would be funny to think about.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:00 AM   #9
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Theres just no damn way it works like that right? I mean, maybe I'm overrating the shit out of Bush and Adderley, but theres no damn way.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:15 AM   #10
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Theres just no damn way it works like that right? I mean, maybe I'm overrating the shit out of Bush and Adderley, but theres no damn way.
I think you are overrating Bush a little. It's not impossible that he falls to the back of the 2nd, IMO.

And I guess Adderley's small school background could also push him back there, but he just jumps off the tape.

I guess I look at this as a combined probability thing. I give it 1 in 3 chances that Bush gets there and maybe 1 in 5 that Adderley does. For both of them to fall you're talking a 1/15 chance and those are just damn long odds.

I think the 2nd is where you may see a ricochet if the 1st goes offense heavy. But if the first does go offense heavy, you're going to see some reaches in there. The OL seems to be the only place where I see real quality 1st round depth on the offensive side of the ball.

The more I dig, the more down on this draft I get. Just not a huge fan of really any position group. OL and DL seems like the standout position groups.
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I think you are overrating Bush a little. It's not impossible that he falls to the back of the 2nd, IMO.

And I guess Adderley's small school background could also push him back there, but he just jumps off the tape.

I guess I look at this as a combined probability thing. I give it 1 in 3 chances that Bush gets there and maybe 1 in 5 that Adderley does. For both of them to fall you're talking a 1/15 chance and those are just damn long odds.

I think the 2nd is where you may see a ricochet if the 1st goes offense heavy. But if the first does go offense heavy, you're going to see some reaches in there. The OL seems to be the only place where I see real quality 1st round depth on the offensive side of the ball.

The more I dig, the more down on this draft I get. Just not a huge fan of really any position group. OL and DL seems like the standout position groups.
I would love if Bush were sitting there at 60 whatever when we pick. Run up there and pick him. A lot of this will depend on the combine so we'll see.

I'm curious how everyone would feel about taking a G or a DL at 29. Seems it could line up.
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I would love if Bush were sitting there at 60 whatever when we pick. Run up there and pick him. A lot of this will depend on the combine so we'll see.

I'm curious how everyone would feel about taking a G or a DL at 29. Seems it could line up.
I think that the only positions that I wouldn't be happy with them taking in the 1st would be QB, RB, WR, K or P. Anything else is pretty much open if it helps out the team.
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If we add a WR, I just want a guy who can beat man coverage early. We’re going to see plenty of tight coverage after what NE and Baltimore did, making things tough on Mahomes.
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If you could put Dexter Lawrence on this DL that would be beastly.
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If you could put Dexter Lawrence on this DL that would be beastly.
The only way I could see that....is if you move Chris Jones to DE.
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