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Old 07-19-2018, 09:05 PM  
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17 dead after duck boat capsizes on Table Rock Lake
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NEAR BRANSON, Mo. -- The Stone County Sheriff confirms eight fatalities involved in a duck boat capsizing on Table Rock Lake Thursday.

Emergency crews responded to the incident shortly after 7 p.m. after a severe line of thunderstorms rolled through the area.

Sheriff Doug Rader reports the boat had 31 people on board. He tells KY3 News four of those have been transported to a hospital. Some of the 31 on board include children. Divers are on the scene searching for more possible victims. The sheriff says he does not know how many on the boat are missing. The sheriff is asking for any family missing someone to go to Branson City Hall. It remains a rescue and recovery mission.


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Old 07-25-2018, 12:02 PM   #331
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I'm starting to think that I shouldn't go on that new 250 foot tall duck boat waterslide ride in Kansas City.
Not without cameras installed in the tube.

Really. why were there at least one camera on a vehicle like this?
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:03 PM   #332
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NTSB releases initial review of video recordings on Branson Ride the Ducks boat that sank

BRANSON, Mo. -- The National Transportation Safety Board said Friday it has finished its initial review of the digital video recording system on board the Branson duck boat that sank in Table Rock Lake.

https://fox4kc.com/2018/07/27/ntsb-r...oat-that-sank/
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:24 PM   #333
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Here's the actual timeline. So now we know that the boat entered the water well after the TS warning was issued and less than 15 minutes before it sank.

I think negligence can be pretty easily proven.

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About 18:27:08
The captain and driver boarded the previously empty vehicle. The driver sat in the driver’s seat and the captain sat in the side-facing seat to the right of the driver. (The captain operates the duck on water and the driver operates the duck on the road.)

About 18:28:00
The crew was told to take the water portion of the tour first, by an individual who briefly stepped onto the rear of the vehicle.

About 18:29:13
As the passengers were loading, the captain made a verbal reference to looking at the weather radar prior to the trip.

About 18:33:10
The driver stated a passenger count of 29 and shortly after, the vehicle departed the terminal facility. The captain narrated the tour while the vehicle was in motion.

Starting about 18:50
In the vicinity of the boat ramp, the captain began a safety briefing regarding the water portion of the tour. The briefing included the location of emergency exits as well as the location of the life jackets. The captain then demonstrated the use of a life jacket and pointed out the location of the life rings. The captain moved into the driver’s seat and the driver moved into the seat directly behind.

About 18:55:20
The captain announced to the passengers that they would be entering the water. The boat entered the water. The water appeared calm at this time.

Between about 18:56:22 and 19:00:38
The captain allowed four different children to sit in the driver’s seat, while he observed and assisted.

About 19:00:25
Whitecaps rapidly appeared on the water and winds increased.

About 19:00:42
The captain returned to the driver’s seat. The driver lowered both the port and starboard clear plastic side curtains.

About 19:01:01
The captain made a comment about the storm.

About 19:03:15
The captain made a handheld radio call, the content of which is currently unintelligible.

About 19:04:15
An electronic tone associated with the bilge alarm activated.

About 19:05:21
The captain reached downward with his right hand and the bilge alarm ceases.

About 19:05:40
The captain made a handheld radio call, the content of which is currently unintelligible.

In the final minutes of the recording
Water occasionally splashes inside the vehicle’s passenger compartment. (The low frame rate and relatively low resolution make it very difficult to be more precise in the preliminary review.)

About 19:07:26
An electronic tone associated with the bilge alarm activated.

19:08:27
The inward-facing recording ended, while the vehicle was still on the surface of the water.

http://www.kmbc.com/article/initial-...-sank/22578164
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Here's the actual timeline. So now we know that the boat entered the water well after the TS warning was issued and less than 15 minutes before it sank.

I think negligence can be pretty easily proven.
Wow....what massive chain of disastrous decisions.

That company needs to go down in flames.

Who was the employee that told them to go into the water first?
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Here's the actual timeline. So now we know that the boat entered the water well after the TS warning was issued and less than 15 minutes before it sank.

I think negligence can be pretty easily proven.
Didn't we already know that? I think folks here put that together fairly early on.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:56 PM   #336
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The boat didn't look completely enclosed. Why didn't people just swim out and up?
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The boat didn't look completely enclosed. Why didn't people just swim out and up?
I read somewhere that they released the roof at some time which happens to be where the preserves were attached.
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The passengers who perished were mostly either older, really young, or/and African Americans who traditionally as a culture are not good swimmers. Plus, panic and fear factor.
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The passengers who perished were mostly either older, really young, or/and African Americans who traditionally as a culture are not good swimmers. Plus, panic and fear factor.
And wind and waves.
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Didn't we already know that? I think folks here put that together fairly early on.
There was a lot of speculation about this but it was never reported. There was one guy who "thought he saw the duck headed towards the lake shortly before 7" but there was never anything official until this report came out. Not that I could find anyway.
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The passengers who perished were mostly either older, really young, or/and African Americans who traditionally as a culture are not good swimmers. Plus, panic and fear factor.
You could be Michael Phelps and not be sure you could swim out of a sinking possibly capsized upside down boat in rough windy water. You have no idea if you are swimming up to surface or down to bottom because its dark in a storm. Naval aviators wash out in trainng because they cannot exit a cockpit in a pool that is sunk and upside down in the maximum allotted time to do so.

The time to have bailed and abandoned this boat was while still aboard on top water when alarms were sounding. The life vests on window up and into the water. The vests would have saved everyone of them I bet. This storm moved through so fast the waters would have calmed and lightened up. Boaters would have pulled them out IMO.

Why the captain didnt get them all in vests and when it looked the only option was to abandon he should have made that call. He will have to live with this the rest of his life.
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Why the captain didnt get them all in vests and when it looked the only option was to abandon he should have made that call. He will have to live with this the rest of his life.
Certainly one of the key questions for me.

We may never know exactly? Captain Bob died

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Why the captain didnt get them all in vests and when it looked the only option was to abandon he should have made that call. He will have to live with this the rest of his life.
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Certainly one of the key questions for me.

We may never know exactly? Captain Bob died
I guess he did.
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Certainly one of the key questions for me.

We may never know exactly? Captain Bob died

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ans/812031002/
Bob Williams was the driver the Captain is Kenneth McKee who survived.
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