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Old 09-14-2018, 05:30 AM  
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Tony Gonzalez, Neil Smith, Dick Vermeil, Marty Schottenheimer- HOF Class 2019
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Gonzalez, Reed lead first-time HOF candidates
Published: Sep 13, 2018 at 01:00 pm
Updated: Sep 13, 2018 at 05:25 pm
Ed Reed career highlights | NFL Legends
The Pro Football Hall of Fame unveiled its list of modern-era nominees for the Class of 2019 on Thursday.

The list includes 91 players and 11 coaches eligible to be selected to next year's class. The list will be whittled down to 25 in November and to 15 finalists in January.

Highlighted on Thursday's list are four first-time candidates: tight end Tony Gonzalez, linebacker London Fletcher, corner Champ Bailey and safety Ed Reed.

This year's compilation includes 47 offensive players, 39 defensive players, and five special teamers.

Here is the full slate of nominees and you can vote for your favorite candidates at www.nfl.com/HOFvote:

QUARTERBACK -- Randall Cunningham, Dave Kreig, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair

RUNNING BACKS -- Shaun Alexander, Tiki Barber, Earnest Byner, Larry Centers, Corey Dillon, Eddie George, *Edgerrin James, Darryl Johnston, Eric Metcalf (WR/KR/PR), Clinton Portis, Fred Taylor, Herschel Walker (also KR), Chris Warren, Ricky Watters

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WIDE RECEIVERS -- *Isaac Bruce, Gary Clark, Henry Ellard (also PR), Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, Derrick Mason, Sterling Sharpe, Rod Smith, Hines Ward

TIGHT END -- Mark Bavaro, Brent Jones, Jay Novacek

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN -- Willie Anderson (T), *Tony Boselli (T), Lomas Brown (T), Ray Donaldson (C), *Alan Faneca (G), Chris Hinton (G/T), Kent Hull (C), *Steve Hutchinson (G), Mike Kenn (T), Olin Kreutz (C), *Kevin Mawae (C/G), Tom Nalen (C), Chris Samuels (T), Richmond Webb (T), Steve Wisniewski (G)

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN -- La'Roi Glover (DT/NT), Russell Maryland (DT), Leslie O'Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Richard Seymour (DT), Neil Smith (DE), Bryant Young (DT)

LINEBACKERS -- Carl Banks, Cornelius Bennett, Tedy Bruschi, Seth Joyner, Wilber Marshall, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest (also DE), Karl Mecklenburg, Sam Mills, Chris Spielman, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, Zach Thomas

DEFENSIVE BACKS -- Eric Allen (CB), Steve Atwater (S), Ronde Barber (CB/S), Bill Bates (S), LeRoy Butler (S), Nick Collins (S), Thomas Everett (S), Rodney Harrison (S), *Ty Law (CB), Albert Lewis (CB), *John Lynch (S), Tim McDonald (S), Dennis Smith (S), Troy Vincent (CB), Adrian Wilson (S), Darren Woodson (S)

PUNTERS/KICKER -- Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Sean Landeta (P)

SPECIAL TEAMS -- Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB), Steve Tasker (ST also WR)

COACHES -- Don Coryell, Bill Cowher, Tom Flores, Jim Hanifan, Mike Holmgren, Jimmy Johnson, Richie Petitbon, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, Clark Shaughnessy, Dick Vermeil

Eighteen finalists will be presented to the full 48-member Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee during its annual meeting on "Selection Saturday," the day before Super Bowl LIII. The finalists will consist of 15 Modern-Era finalists, the recently named Senior Finalist, Johnny Robinson, and the Contributor Finalists, Pat Bowlen and Gil Brandt.

The Selection Committee will meet on Saturday, Feb. 2, 2019 in Atlanta, Ga. to elect the Class of 2019. While there is no set number for any class of enshrinees, the selection process by-laws provide that between four and eight new members will be selected.

The Senior Finalist and Contributor Finalists are voted "yes" or "no" for election at the annual selection meeting and must receive at least 80 percent support from the Committee to be elected. The Modern-Era Finalists will be trimmed during the meeting from 15 to 10 and then from 10 to 5. The remaining five finalists will be voted on individually, "yes" or "no" and must receive the same 80 percent positive vote as the Senior and Contributors Finalists to earn election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The Class of 2019 will be announced during the "NFL Honors" nationally broadcast award show that evening.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2019 will be formally enshrined on Saturday, Aug. 3, 2019 in Canton.


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Old 09-14-2018, 05:48 AM   #2
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:22 AM   #3
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:38 AM   #4
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Ultimately, if Dave Kreig and Steve Mcnair are considered HOF candidates then in the future Trent should be in the conversation too.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:45 AM   #5
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Ultimately, if Dave Kreig and Steve Mcnair are considered HOF candidates then in the future Trent should be in the conversation too.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:46 AM   #6
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Ultimately, if Dave Kreig and Steve Mcnair are considered HOF candidates then in the future Trent should be in the conversation too.
And, neither should... there's a whole lot of good but not great on those lists.
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Marty? Is this a regular season only HOF induction? Marty was amazing in the regular season, one of the best at getting the most out of his teams. Vanished in post season play though.

Tony is a no brainer. Best TE of all time.

Neil is pretty borderline.

Dick has a case, though I'm not sure he is a HOFer.
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I can see Marty based on sheer volume of wins. Tony is obvious. The others don’t belong.
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Marty? Is this a regular season only HOF induction? Marty was amazing in the regular season, one of the best at getting the most out of his teams. Vanished in post season play though.

Tony is a no brainer. Best TE of all time.

Neil is pretty borderline.

Dick has a case, though I'm not sure he is a HOFer.
Marty, Reeves and Vermeil are very similar... not sure what really separates any of them. Vermeil won a title, that's about it.
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QUARTERBACK -- Randall Cunningham, Dave Kreig, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair

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RUNNING BACKS -- Shaun Alexander, Tiki Barber, Earnest Byner, Larry Centers, Corey Dillon, Eddie George, *Edgerrin James, Darryl Johnston, Eric Metcalf (WR/KR/PR), Clinton Portis, Fred Taylor, Herschel Walker (also KR), Chris Warren, Ricky Watters

WATTERS had a much bigger impact than people realize, but writers/voters hold a big grudge against him.


WIDE RECEIVERS -- *Isaac Bruce, Gary Clark, Henry Ellard (also PR), Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, Derrick Mason, Sterling Sharpe, Rod Smith, Hines Ward

I remember Holt being dominant for a big stretch, but I'm not sure what how his career #'s stack up. I have a soft spot for Ward because I love gritty players and he was possibly the best blocking WR ever.

TIGHT END -- Mark Bavaro, Brent Jones, Jay Novacek

GONZALEZ

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN -- Willie Anderson (T), *Tony Boselli (T), Lomas Brown (T), Ray Donaldson (C), *Alan Faneca (G), Chris Hinton (G/T), Kent Hull (C), *Steve Hutchinson (G), Mike Kenn (T), Olin Kreutz (C), *Kevin Mawae (C/G), Tom Nalen (C), Chris Samuels (T), Richmond Webb (T), Steve Wisniewski (G)

NO IDEA HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE ALL OF THEM

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN -- La'Roi Glover (DT/NT), Russell Maryland (DT), Leslie O'Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Richard Seymour (DT), Neil Smith (DE), Bryant Young (DT)

SEYMOUR

LINEBACKERS -- Carl Banks, Cornelius Bennett, Tedy Bruschi, Seth Joyner, Wilber Marshall, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest (also DE), Karl Mecklenburg, Sam Mills, Chris Spielman, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, Zach Thomas

DEFENSIVE BACKS -- Eric Allen (CB), Steve Atwater (S), Ronde Barber (CB/S), Bill Bates (S), LeRoy Butler (S), Nick Collins (S), Thomas Everett (S), Rodney Harrison (S), *Ty Law (CB), Albert Lewis (CB), *John Lynch (S), Tim McDonald (S), Dennis Smith (S), Troy Vincent (CB), Adrian Wilson (S), Darren Woodson

A GOOD CASE COULD BE MADE FOR A HANDFUL OF THESE GUYS.

My biggest issue is that a lot of the voters seem to be swayed by players who have gone into media jobs. They seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
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