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Chief Northman · 02-10-2020, 06:33 PM

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Chief Northman · 02-13-2020, 10:17 PM

Lol at this one:
Drafttek board, user voted team needs, Difficult setting. I couldn’t fit in a corner for the life of me based on what was on the board at each pick, but....

32: R1P32
DL JAVON KINLAW
SOUTH CAROLINA

63: R2P31
EDGE ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

96: R3P32
LB PATRICK QUEEN
LSU

135: R4P32
C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY
LSU

177: R5P31
RB ENO BENJAMIN
ARIZONA STATE

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-13-2020, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Lol at this one:
Drafttek board, user voted team needs, Difficult setting. I couldn’t fit in a corner for the life of me based on what was on the board at each pick, but....

32: R1P32
DL JAVON KINLAW
SOUTH CAROLINA

63: R2P31
EDGE ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

96: R3P32
LB PATRICK QUEEN
LSU

135: R4P32
C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY
LSU

177: R5P31
RB ENO BENJAMIN
ARIZONA STATE

Goodness. That’s 3 first rounders probably and another 2nd rounder. Lol

wasi · 02-14-2020, 12:44 AM

Fanspeak - Steve board, user voted team needs, Classic setting.

32: R1P32
C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY
LSU

63: R2P31
CB A.J. TERRELL
CLEMSON

96: R3P32
LB MALIK HARRISON
OHIO STATE

135: R4P32
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU

177: R5P31
OT CALVIN THROCKMORTON
OREGON

duncan_idaho · 02-14-2020, 10:38 AM

Fanspeak - Matt Miller board, Steve's team needs, Classic

I had to throw a twist in. I ran this draft assuming the following moves were made leading up to it:

1) Trade Chris Jones to Seahawks for #27 in 2020, 3rd round in 2021
2) Trade Sammy Watkins to Eagles for 2020 #4 (124)
3) Trade #32 to Giants for 2020 #36 and #107

Here are my results:

1st. #27 - DeAndre Swift, RB, UGA. This was a BPA selection. I wasn't thinking RB, but he "fell" to me there. Too much value to not make a move. Also adds a 4th playmaker on O to pair with Hill, Kelce, Hardman. I pass on Kenny Murray (LB, OU), Kristian Fulton (CB, LSU), and Zach Baun (LB, Wisconsin) to make this seleciton.

2nd. #36 (Giants) - Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU. I was looking for the best CB or pass rusher I could fine at this spot. I pick Gladney over Jalyon Johnson (Utah) and AJ Terrell (Clemson) at CB, Marlon Davidson (Aubie) and Bradley Annae (utah)as pass rushers.

2nd. #63 - Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M. With Jones gone, I supplement my interior rush with Madubuike, who is very talented but has some question marks. Kinda similar to CJ himself coming out of school...

3rd. #96 - Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor. Well, this was fun. I wasn't expecting to be able to add a WR here, but Mims fell in my lap. I love his length, speed, and catch radius. He's also a hands catcher and good overall athlete (track guy!). For a bigger receiver (6-3) looks to win a lot of quick separation. Chris Conley-level tools, but actually able to get open...

4th. #107 (Giants) - Matt Hennessey, C, Temple. I add a C who can push Reiter for the starting gig right away or move him to a G spot. I was looking best IOL at this point, and he just landed.

4th. #124 (Eagles) - Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appy State. ADG is a little undersized but measured in at 6-1/217 at the Senior Bowl and seems capable of playing at 6-1/225. I'm admittedly man-crushing here, but he would inject some major speed and coverage skills for KC at WLB, while also being a good/powerful tackler. Troy Dye (MLB, Texas Tech) was also available here, for those who prefer him.

4th. #135 - Alton Robinson, DE, Syracuse. Robinson has the physical skills you look for - size, quickness, initial burst - but hasn't received great coaching thus far. I think he's someone who could really blossom with good developmental staff. He's a rotational rusher in Year 1 for KC but is someone who could blossom into a star. Also considered Nick Coe (DE, Auburn) but went with the higher upside. Troy Pride (CB, Notre Dame) was also there.

5th. #177 - Solomon Kindley, G, Georgia. Was looking BPA available here and liked Kindley's experience and power.

Recap: I land a new feature back, a new #3 receiver (and one I expect to start outside in years 2-3), and two prospects at IOL who should give me at least 1 new starter. If both look ready Year 1, I could even cut LDT and save some cap. On the defensive side, much-needed depth and speed added. Losing Jones' pass rush skills is hard, but I have added an edge with a lot of upside as well as a DT who is very talented and has the ability to become that powerful interior rusher Jones was. I also add a long-term solution at a boundary corner in Gladney, who can do everything.

And I add my personal favorite LB prospect in ADG, who gives me a major boost in sideline-to-sideline speed and HOPEFULLY is my 43 base set starter and sub-package coverage LB.

wachashi · 02-14-2020, 11:15 AM

The draft would be super entertaining with that many picks. I like what you've done, but I'm taking Kristian Fulton (CB) at pick #27 over Swift and it wouldn't be that tough of a decision for me. RBs that can produce in this offense are not that hard to find, although Swift would be electric here.

duncan_idaho · 02-14-2020, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi

The draft would be super entertaining with that many picks. I like what you've done, but I'm taking Kristian Fulton (CB) at pick #27 over Swift and it wouldn't be that tough of a decision for me. RBs that can produce in this offense are not that hard to find, although Swift would be electric here.

It’s a tough call. I wouldn’t expect Swift to actually fall there, but he’s so dynamic it wold be a tough pass for me.

I’m still suffering some hangover from Fulton’s shitty performance in the national title game.

The Clemson WRs were creating a lot of separation against him. The only regular season game he played against similar weapons was Alabama - I didn’t watch that closely enough to pay attention to him.

But I wouldn’t hate taking a CB there.

With that first 2nd you’re now freed up for BpA. I don’t remember exactly how it played out, but I believe Marlon Davidson and Curtis Weaver were both out there at that point.

What are your thoughts on Madubuike and Robinson?

wachashi · 02-14-2020, 12:10 PM

I like the Madubuike pick at that spot with Jones gone. I'm not sure how the coaching staff view Saunders and his potential, but he really didn't show much penetration on passing downs. Small sample size, and obviously he's going to continue to develop. But, we'll need a penetrating 3T to put next to Nnadi, and Madubuike looks like he could fill that role. Seems like a smart pick.

If Ogbah's not coming back, then I think another DE makes sense. Nothing's surefire that late in the draft but Robinson seems to have some upside potential. Wouldn't be mad at that pick in that spot.

DrRyan · 02-14-2020, 12:19 PM

I hated not taking any IOL earlier but the only possibility this draft would have been Cushenberry in the first and I could not pull that trigger. Maybe little Runyan has some of his dad's mean streak in him and he can find a spot in the league. I like the rest though.

32: R1P32
EDGE ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN
63: R2P31
CB A.J. TERRELL
CLEMSON
96: R3P32
LB AKEEM DAVIS-GAITHER
APPALACHIAN STATE
135: R4P32
RB CAM AKERS
FSU
177: R5P31
G JON RUNYAN
MICHIGAN

Chief Northman · 02-14-2020, 02:09 PM

Kristian Fulton and AJ Terrell were so awful in the NCG that I'm off their bandwagons. I think Fulton might be a product of the talent that surrounds him. Terrell is not very scheme multiple, and struggles with long speed - he needs to get hands on receivers to succeed.

If these guys and D'Andre Swift are on the board at #32 - you take Swift every time. Game changer.

Dayze · 02-14-2020, 02:38 PM

Fanspeak Steve, Difficult. pretty interesting how it varies quite a bit.

approached assuming we have Chris Jones this year. and either Robinson and or Watkins gone.

32: R1P32 CB TREVON DIGGS ALABAMA
63: R2P31 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
96: R3P32 WR DENZEL MIMS BAYLOR
135: R4P32 LB JORDYN BROOKS TEXAS TECH
177: R5P31 RB ENO BENJAMIN ARIZONA STATE

assuming Christ Jones is gone (DL and CB never materialized in my mock the way I would have hoped)
32: R1P32 EDGE MARLON DAVIDSON AUBURN
63: R2P31 RB CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE LSU
96: R3P32 G EZRA CLEVELAND BOISE STATE
135: R4P32 DL DAVON HAMILTON OHIO STATE
177: R5P31 WR JAMES PROCHE SMU

**The Franchise** · 02-14-2020, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze

Fanspeak Steve, Difficult. pretty interesting how it varies quite a bit.

approached assuming we have Chris Jones this year. and either Robinson and or Watkins gone.

32: R1P32 CB TREVON DIGGS ALABAMA
63: R2P31 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
96: R3P32 WR DENZEL MIMS BAYLOR
135: R4P32 LB JORDYN BROOKS TEXAS TECH
177: R5P31 RB ENO BENJAMIN ARIZONA STATE

assuming Christ Jones is gone (DL and CB never materialized in my mock the way I would have hoped)
32: R1P32 EDGE MARLON DAVIDSON AUBURN
63: R2P31 RB CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE LSU
96: R3P32 G EZRA CLEVELAND BOISE STATE
135: R4P32 DL DAVON HAMILTON OHIO STATE
177: R5P31 WR JAMES PROCHE SMU

I’d rather keep Jones and take that first draft.

DrRyan · 02-14-2020, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze

Fanspeak Steve, Difficult. pretty interesting how it varies quite a bit.

approached assuming we have Chris Jones this year. and either Robinson and or Watkins gone.

32: R1P32 CB TREVON DIGGS ALABAMA
63: R2P31 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
96: R3P32 WR DENZEL MIMS BAYLOR
135: R4P32 LB JORDYN BROOKS TEXAS TECH
177: R5P31 RB ENO BENJAMIN ARIZONA STATE

assuming Christ Jones is gone (DL and CB never materialized in my mock the way I would have hoped)
32: R1P32 EDGE MARLON DAVIDSON AUBURN
63: R2P31 RB CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE LSU
96: R3P32 G EZRA CLEVELAND BOISE STATE
135: R4P32 DL DAVON HAMILTON OHIO STATE
177: R5P31 WR JAMES PROCHE SMU

Shouldn't you be adding at least another first rounder if assuming Jones is gone? Seattle/Miami/etc first round pick slot or something similar?

Wilson8 · 02-15-2020, 02:33 PM

I played around with this and looked at the Big Board Player selection choices.

Drafttek and CBS Composite are pretty good.

Some of the others still have players in them that did not declare for draft. Still others are missing players all together or have them so low that it makes their Big Board suspect.

CBS Josh Edwards did not have LB Jordyn Brooks or TE Thaddeus Moss.

Tony Pauline - Pro Football Network has some real extremes with his ratings. If he likes you, he really, really likes you and seems kind of out of sync since that throws the rating off.

Scout The Player also has some strange ratings, Example Michigan Center/guard Cesar Ruiz is given a 185 (6th round) and LSU TE Moss is not even on board.

Some of this might change as later updates take place on these Big Boards and these were just early attempts to get something out there.

Wilson8 · 02-15-2020, 02:36 PM

It is fun to play around with.

Makes you feel good about what the Chiefs will be able to do.

It won't be this easy.

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02-14-2020, 10:38 AM	#5
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1840308	Fanspeak - Matt Miller board, Steve's team needs, Classic I had to throw a twist in. I ran this draft assuming the following moves were made leading up to it: 1) Trade Chris Jones to Seahawks for #27 in 2020, 3rd round in 2021 2) Trade Sammy Watkins to Eagles for 2020 #4 (124) 3) Trade #32 to Giants for 2020 #36 and #107 Here are my results: 1st. #27 - DeAndre Swift, RB, UGA. This was a BPA selection. I wasn't thinking RB, but he "fell" to me there. Too much value to not make a move. Also adds a 4th playmaker on O to pair with Hill, Kelce, Hardman. I pass on Kenny Murray (LB, OU), Kristian Fulton (CB, LSU), and Zach Baun (LB, Wisconsin) to make this seleciton. 2nd. #36 (Giants) - Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU. I was looking for the best CB or pass rusher I could fine at this spot. I pick Gladney over Jalyon Johnson (Utah) and AJ Terrell (Clemson) at CB, Marlon Davidson (Aubie) and Bradley Annae (utah)as pass rushers. 2nd. #63 - Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M. With Jones gone, I supplement my interior rush with Madubuike, who is very talented but has some question marks. Kinda similar to CJ himself coming out of school... 3rd. #96 - Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor. Well, this was fun. I wasn't expecting to be able to add a WR here, but Mims fell in my lap. I love his length, speed, and catch radius. He's also a hands catcher and good overall athlete (track guy!). For a bigger receiver (6-3) looks to win a lot of quick separation. Chris Conley-level tools, but actually able to get open... 4th. #107 (Giants) - Matt Hennessey, C, Temple. I add a C who can push Reiter for the starting gig right away or move him to a G spot. I was looking best IOL at this point, and he just landed. 4th. #124 (Eagles) - Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appy State. ADG is a little undersized but measured in at 6-1/217 at the Senior Bowl and seems capable of playing at 6-1/225. I'm admittedly man-crushing here, but he would inject some major speed and coverage skills for KC at WLB, while also being a good/powerful tackler. Troy Dye (MLB, Texas Tech) was also available here, for those who prefer him. 4th. #135 - Alton Robinson, DE, Syracuse. Robinson has the physical skills you look for - size, quickness, initial burst - but hasn't received great coaching thus far. I think he's someone who could really blossom with good developmental staff. He's a rotational rusher in Year 1 for KC but is someone who could blossom into a star. Also considered Nick Coe (DE, Auburn) but went with the higher upside. Troy Pride (CB, Notre Dame) was also there. 5th. #177 - Solomon Kindley, G, Georgia. Was looking BPA available here and liked Kindley's experience and power. Recap: I land a new feature back, a new #3 receiver (and one I expect to start outside in years 2-3), and two prospects at IOL who should give me at least 1 new starter. If both look ready Year 1, I could even cut LDT and save some cap. On the defensive side, much-needed depth and speed added. Losing Jones' pass rush skills is hard, but I have added an edge with a lot of upside as well as a DT who is very talented and has the ability to become that powerful interior rusher Jones was. I also add a long-term solution at a boundary corner in Gladney, who can do everything. And I add my personal favorite LB prospect in ADG, who gives me a major boost in sideline-to-sideline speed and HOPEFULLY is my 43 base set starter and sub-package coverage LB. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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02-14-2020, 12:10 PM	#8
wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7210400	I like the Madubuike pick at that spot with Jones gone. I'm not sure how the coaching staff view Saunders and his potential, but he really didn't show much penetration on passing downs. Small sample size, and obviously he's going to continue to develop. But, we'll need a penetrating 3T to put next to Nnadi, and Madubuike looks like he could fill that role. Seems like a smart pick. If Ogbah's not coming back, then I think another DE makes sense. Nothing's surefire that late in the draft but Robinson seems to have some upside potential. Wouldn't be mad at that pick in that spot.
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02-14-2020, 02:38 PM	#11
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	Fanspeak Steve, Difficult. pretty interesting how it varies quite a bit. approached assuming we have Chris Jones this year. and either Robinson and or Watkins gone. 32: R1P32 CB TREVON DIGGS ALABAMA 63: R2P31 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 96: R3P32 WR DENZEL MIMS BAYLOR 135: R4P32 LB JORDYN BROOKS TEXAS TECH 177: R5P31 RB ENO BENJAMIN ARIZONA STATE assuming Christ Jones is gone (DL and CB never materialized in my mock the way I would have hoped) 32: R1P32 EDGE MARLON DAVIDSON AUBURN 63: R2P31 RB CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE LSU 96: R3P32 G EZRA CLEVELAND BOISE STATE 135: R4P32 DL DAVON HAMILTON OHIO STATE 177: R5P31 WR JAMES PROCHE SMU __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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02-15-2020, 02:33 PM	#14
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3657557	I played around with this and looked at the Big Board Player selection choices. Drafttek and CBS Composite are pretty good. Some of the others still have players in them that did not declare for draft. Still others are missing players all together or have them so low that it makes their Big Board suspect. CBS Josh Edwards did not have LB Jordyn Brooks or TE Thaddeus Moss. Tony Pauline - Pro Football Network has some real extremes with his ratings. If he likes you, he really, really likes you and seems kind of out of sync since that throws the rating off. Scout The Player also has some strange ratings, Example Michigan Center/guard Cesar Ruiz is given a 185 (6th round) and LSU TE Moss is not even on board. Some of this might change as later updates take place on these Big Boards and these were just early attempts to get something out there.
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02-13-2020, 10:17 PM	#2
Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6900890	Lol at this one: Drafttek board, user voted team needs, Difficult setting. I couldn’t fit in a corner for the life of me based on what was on the board at each pick, but.... 32: R1P32 DL JAVON KINLAW SOUTH CAROLINA 63: R2P31 EDGE ZACK BAUN WISCONSIN 96: R3P32 LB PATRICK QUEEN LSU 135: R4P32 C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY LSU 177: R5P31 RB ENO BENJAMIN ARIZONA STATE
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02-14-2020, 12:44 AM	#4
wasi Planner of the Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kelowna, BC Casino cash: $8401655	Fanspeak - Steve board, user voted team needs, Classic setting. 32: R1P32 C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY LSU 63: R2P31 CB A.J. TERRELL CLEMSON 96: R3P32 LB MALIK HARRISON OHIO STATE 135: R4P32 TE THADDEUS MOSS LSU 177: R5P31 OT CALVIN THROCKMORTON OREGON
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02-14-2020, 11:15 AM	#6
wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7210400	The draft would be super entertaining with that many picks. I like what you've done, but I'm taking Kristian Fulton (CB) at pick #27 over Swift and it wouldn't be that tough of a decision for me. RBs that can produce in this offense are not that hard to find, although Swift would be electric here.
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02-14-2020, 12:19 PM	#9
DrRyan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AZ Casino cash: $7091721	I hated not taking any IOL earlier but the only possibility this draft would have been Cushenberry in the first and I could not pull that trigger. Maybe little Runyan has some of his dad's mean streak in him and he can find a spot in the league. I like the rest though. 32: R1P32 EDGE ZACK BAUN WISCONSIN 63: R2P31 CB A.J. TERRELL CLEMSON 96: R3P32 LB AKEEM DAVIS-GAITHER APPALACHIAN STATE 135: R4P32 RB CAM AKERS FSU 177: R5P31 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN
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02-14-2020, 02:09 PM	#10
Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6900890	Kristian Fulton and AJ Terrell were so awful in the NCG that I'm off their bandwagons. I think Fulton might be a product of the talent that surrounds him. Terrell is not very scheme multiple, and struggles with long speed - he needs to get hands on receivers to succeed. If these guys and D'Andre Swift are on the board at #32 - you take Swift every time. Game changer.
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02-15-2020, 02:36 PM	#15
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3657557	It is fun to play around with. Makes you feel good about what the Chiefs will be able to do. It won't be this easy.
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