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Unexpected benefits of winning it all

I'm not sure I ever fully appreciated that one benefit of making it to (and winning) the Super Bowl is the incredible volume of coverage that we now have of our team. I've always been the type to watch just about every press conference and read every article I can, and the number of both has been so high that I've long ago given up on keeping up.

Add to that the various NFL Films videos, all the talking heads dissecting the game, marathons of Mahomes' best games...it's crazy how easy it is to keep the excitement going even two weeks later.

What other unexpected benefits have we seen?
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I remember the talk on TV/podcasts that Mahomes couldn't win the "big" games because he lost at NE/Rams/in the AFCCG. Some are just "hot takes" BS but some really believe that crap.

You still hear them say..... welll in the SB he wasn't very good in the first 3 quarters.....he sucked for a good portion of all the playoff games. 3 straight games of comebacks to win it all because of him and still doesn't get universal respect.
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Still getting very little love in the Chicago area. The Didn't Draft Mahomes butthurt is real.

I did see a couple of people wearing 49ers stuff last week. They didn't make eye contact with me.
Pretty much how Boston fans felt after they traded away Babe Ruth.

Lots of talk of Tribisky being on a short leash. It will be interesting if he makes it through the year as the starter.
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I think it's a newfound appreciation for just how friggen hard it is to get one of these things.

Think of how many times the Chiefs were one play made/not made away from losing that game. There are probably 5 different plays that HAD to be made or the Chiefs lose. And a couple more that the 49ers just missed on that could've done it. And some that just get lost in the wash like when Nnadi fights a block off to hold Mostert to 5 on the drive where Jones batted the pass down. If Nnadi can't get back up and minimize damage there, the entire drive changes if Mostert pops for 13. And none of that's even getting into the STs tackle made by a guy many would have cut that changed everything against Texas. Or the dead-leg from Mahomes to get to the edge against TN and take their soul.

And all of that was a culmination of a hundred different things that were done that simply don't happen that often. It took a FA signing that worked out better than virtually ANY big money FA signings work out. It took Kelce signing an extension a year earlier than he needed to instead of chasing every dime he could. It took Pennel off the scrap heap and Matt Moore playing his ass off after coaching high school ball. It took a GM that said '**** value, I'm pushing my chips in...' on the Frank Clark deal. It took a wild come back against Detroit and Breeland Speaks knocking a ball down in the end zone in Foxborough. It took a loss in TN that gave us Suggs on waivers and another vs Indianapolis that created an angry Landlord who took his teammates to task. It took Fitzmagic.

And of course beyond all that it took Patrick Mahomes playing on a contract that pays him 10% of his true value and Jones playing on a 2nd rounders deal. It took a couple of big-time coaching coups to get Daly and House in here when they were among the most sought after assistants in the league (huge credit to Reid for hiring Spags when that wasn't a slam-dunk choice and huge credit to Spags for closing the deal on those assistants).

So many damn things had to happen for this and in real-time you lose track of a lot of them. Even now I'm probably missing a half dozen more critical decisions that vanish to history shortly after they're made. But when you spend 2 weeks devouring all things Chiefs-related, you essentially do one of those old-school 'cram before a test' sessions on the last 12 months of Chiefs football (let alone everything that's happened in the Reid era) and it comes into sharp focus what a monumentally difficult task this was and how impressive everyone involved had to be.

You see other teams win and think to yourself "Man, if we just had Tom Brady we'd be golden..." and sure, that helps a LOT. Of course they don't do this without Mahomes. But it took a ton more than just having Patrick Mahomes on this squad. The afterglow, and being part of it, gives you the perspective to really appreciate everything that went into making it happen.

That's been the most unexpected part of all this for me. Finally knowing what the finish line looks like and using that perspective to analyze everything that had to happen to get there has given me a far greater appreciation of why so many teams go so long without winning one of these - many of them truly excellent teams being led by smart men making sound decisions. This shit's hard. I just don't think you can fully realize that until you finally see it accomplished.
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I remember the talk on TV/podcasts that Mahomes couldn't win the "big" games because he lost at NE/Rams/in the AFCCG. Some are just "hot takes" BS but some really believe that crap.

You still hear them say..... welll in the SB he wasn't very good in the first 3 quarters.....he sucked for a good portion of all the playoff games. 3 straight games of comebacks to win it all because of him and still doesn't get universal respect.
This! Mahomes is held to a different standard. After falling short in overtime- it was- "Mahomes can't beat Brady". Then he does. Then it is, "He has never won an SB"- mission accomplished.

Now its- "Well, he got lucky at the end".

Even when he threw for 5,000 yards and 50 TD's- lots of critics wanted to give the MVP to Brees.
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Watched the hour-long mic'd up again yesterday. The part with Dirty Dan and his little daughter in the confetti gets me every time. Tears of joy.

Oh, that’s the one that gets me, too. Something about her tackling him is just perfect and touching.

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I remember the talk on TV/podcasts that Mahomes couldn't win the "big" games because he lost at NE/Rams/in the AFCCG. Some are just "hot takes" BS but some really believe that crap.

You still hear them say..... welll in the SB he wasn't very good in the first 3 quarters.....he sucked for a good portion of all the playoff games. 3 straight games of comebacks to win it all because of him and still doesn't get universal respect.

Some of it is they need SOMETHING to say. The truth - he’s the best now and is going to best the best for the next decade - isn’t super exciting to talk about.

That whole “didn’t play well in first 3 quarters thing” is also a garbage, lazy take. He played well in the first half - 4 possessions, drove them on 3, scored on 2, 4th blown up by a great defensive play on 2nd down.
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Pretty much how Boston fans felt after they traded away Babe Ruth.

Lots of talk of Tribisky being on a short leash. It will be interesting if he makes it through the year as the starter.
I think it would be funny that if they dump Tribisky that he finds great success with another team like Vikings and beat the Bears twice a year.
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I think it would be funny that if they dump Tribisky that he finds great success with another team like Vikings and beat the Bears twice a year.


Chiefs pick him up as a backup, develope him and flip him for a first rounder.
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I think it would be funny that if they dump Tribisky that he finds great success with another team like Vikings and beat the Bears twice a year.
I think he'd probably do better on another team. That second overall pick pressure would be gone.

Poor bastard never should have been picked that high. By all accounts he's a good kid; he just simply doesn't have the skills to match Pace's stupidity.
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I think it's a newfound appreciation for just how friggen hard it is to get one of these things.

Think of how many times the Chiefs were one play made/not made away from losing that game. There are probably 5 different plays that HAD to be made or the Chiefs lose. And a couple more that the 49ers just missed on that could've done it. And some that just get lost in the wash like when Nnadi fights a block off to hold Mostert to 5 on the drive where Jones batted the pass down. If Nnadi can't get back up and minimize damage there, the entire drive changes if Mostert pops for 13. And none of that's even getting into the STs tackle made by a guy many would have cut that changed everything against Texas. Or the dead-leg from Mahomes to get to the edge against TN and take their soul.

And all of that was a culmination of a hundred different things that were done that simply don't happen that often. It took a FA signing that worked out better than virtually ANY big money FA signings work out. It took Kelce signing an extension a year earlier than he needed to instead of chasing every dime he could. It took Pennel off the scrap heap and Matt Moore playing his ass off after coaching high school ball. It took a GM that said '**** value, I'm pushing my chips in...' on the Frank Clark deal. It took a wild come back against Detroit and Breeland Speaks knocking a ball down in the end zone in Foxborough. It took a loss in TN that gave us Suggs on waivers and another vs Indianapolis that created an angry Landlord who took his teammates to task. It took Fitzmagic.

And of course beyond all that it took Patrick Mahomes playing on a contract that pays him 10% of his true value and Jones playing on a 2nd rounders deal. It took a couple of big-time coaching coups to get Daly and House in here when they were among the most sought after assistants in the league (huge credit to Reid for hiring Spags when that wasn't a slam-dunk choice and huge credit to Spags for closing the deal on those assistants).

So many damn things had to happen for this and in real-time you lose track of a lot of them. Even now I'm probably missing a half dozen more critical decisions that vanish to history shortly after they're made. But when you spend 2 weeks devouring all things Chiefs-related, you essentially do one of those old-school 'cram before a test' sessions on the last 12 months of Chiefs football (let alone everything that's happened in the Reid era) and it comes into sharp focus what a monumentally difficult task this was and how impressive everyone involved had to be.

You see other teams win and think to yourself "Man, if we just had Tom Brady we'd be golden..." and sure, that helps a LOT. Of course they don't do this without Mahomes. But it took a ton more than just having Patrick Mahomes on this squad. The afterglow, and being part of it, gives you the perspective to really appreciate everything that went into making it happen.

That's been the most unexpected part of all this for me. Finally knowing what the finish line looks like and using that perspective to analyze everything that had to happen to get there has given me a far greater appreciation of why so many teams go so long without winning one of these - many of them truly excellent teams being led by smart men making sound decisions. This shit's hard. I just don't think you can fully realize that until you finally see it accomplished.
On average, each team has about a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl each year. The better teams might bump their odds up to more like 10-15%, and the great teams might bump it up to more like 20%, but that's really about as good as it gets. It ALWAYS requires a lot of things going your way. That's part of why the Patriots have been so astounding in the past 20 years.

My hope is that this win will at least allow Chiefs fans to enjoy the game for what it is and turn loose of some of the angst we've carried for most of our lifetimes. I really hope that we get back here a dozen times in Mahomes career, but as long as we're always in contention and Mahomes continues to do things that amaze us, I'll be satisfied.
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On average, each team has about a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl each year. The better teams might bump their odds up to more like 10-15%, and the great teams might bump it up to more like 20%, but that's really about as good as it gets. It ALWAYS requires a lot of things going your way. That's part of why the Patriots have been so astounding in the past 20 years.

My hope is that this win will at least allow Chiefs fans to enjoy the game for what it is and turn loose of some of the angst we've carried for most of our lifetimes. I really hope that we get back here a dozen times in Mahomes career, but as long as we're always in contention and Mahomes continues to do things that amaze us, I'll be satisfied.
Exactly, obviously the destination is the Super Bowl, but the journey really is the most important part to enjoying football because the journey is years of memories with the destination being a brief experience and then once again, your back on the journey with that experience as a distant memory.
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I think it's a newfound appreciation for just how friggen hard it is to get one of these things.

Think of how many times the Chiefs were one play made/not made away from losing that game. There are probably 5 different plays that HAD to be made or the Chiefs lose. And a couple more that the 49ers just missed on that could've done it. And some that just get lost in the wash like when Nnadi fights a block off to hold Mostert to 5 on the drive where Jones batted the pass down. If Nnadi can't get back up and minimize damage there, the entire drive changes if Mostert pops for 13. And none of that's even getting into the STs tackle made by a guy many would have cut that changed everything against Texas. Or the dead-leg from Mahomes to get to the edge against TN and take their soul.

And all of that was a culmination of a hundred different things that were done that simply don't happen that often. It took a FA signing that worked out better than virtually ANY big money FA signings work out. It took Kelce signing an extension a year earlier than he needed to instead of chasing every dime he could. It took Pennel off the scrap heap and Matt Moore playing his ass off after coaching high school ball. It took a GM that said '**** value, I'm pushing my chips in...' on the Frank Clark deal. It took a wild come back against Detroit and Breeland Speaks knocking a ball down in the end zone in Foxborough. It took a loss in TN that gave us Suggs on waivers and another vs Indianapolis that created an angry Landlord who took his teammates to task. It took Fitzmagic.

And of course beyond all that it took Patrick Mahomes playing on a contract that pays him 10% of his true value and Jones playing on a 2nd rounders deal. It took a couple of big-time coaching coups to get Daly and House in here when they were among the most sought after assistants in the league (huge credit to Reid for hiring Spags when that wasn't a slam-dunk choice and huge credit to Spags for closing the deal on those assistants).

So many damn things had to happen for this and in real-time you lose track of a lot of them. Even now I'm probably missing a half dozen more critical decisions that vanish to history shortly after they're made. But when you spend 2 weeks devouring all things Chiefs-related, you essentially do one of those old-school 'cram before a test' sessions on the last 12 months of Chiefs football (let alone everything that's happened in the Reid era) and it comes into sharp focus what a monumentally difficult task this was and how impressive everyone involved had to be.

You see other teams win and think to yourself "Man, if we just had Tom Brady we'd be golden..." and sure, that helps a LOT. Of course they don't do this without Mahomes. But it took a ton more than just having Patrick Mahomes on this squad. The afterglow, and being part of it, gives you the perspective to really appreciate everything that went into making it happen.

That's been the most unexpected part of all this for me. Finally knowing what the finish line looks like and using that perspective to analyze everything that had to happen to get there has given me a far greater appreciation of why so many teams go so long without winning one of these - many of them truly excellent teams being led by smart men making sound decisions. This shit's hard. I just don't think you can fully realize that until you finally see it accomplished.
Reminded me of a few of those playoff and World Series games on the way to winning it all.

Then it was all over. Not so for the Chiefs.

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On average, each team has about a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl each year. The better teams might bump their odds up to more like 10-15%, and the great teams might bump it up to more like 20%, but that's really about as good as it gets. It ALWAYS requires a lot of things going your way. That's part of why the Patriots have been so astounding in the past 20 years.

My hope is that this win will at least allow Chiefs fans to enjoy the game for what it is and turn loose of some of the angst we've carried for most of our lifetimes. I really hope that we get back here a dozen times in Mahomes career, but as long as we're always in contention and Mahomes continues to do things that amaze us, I'll be satisfied.
Agree, there are about a dozen teams I would give essentially zero chance of winning it next year, including the . I'd give the Chiefs about a 40 percent chance to get there again, and 20 percent to win again. I believe that's about consistent with Vegas odds. Because Mahomes. The have outstanding odds to sink to last place while celebrating a single win during Drewcember.
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