Kyle Dugger - S/LB, Lenoir-Rhyne

wachashi · 02-14-2020, 10:38 AM

This guy is intriguing and could be another Swiss Army Knife type of player for Spags. If Sorenson gets cut, this is the type of player you can draft to fill that role, and he's much, MUCH, more athletic than Sorenson. Lots of draft pundits are saying he can play off-ball linebacker at the NFL level. He's 6' 1" 217lbs.

Right now, it looks like he'll be available at the end of the second round/beginning of the third. He's a "sleeper" pick because he played D-II ball. His tape is fun because he completely outclasses everyone else on the field athletically and he returned kicks. He's been called, "one of the best pure athletes in the 2020 NFL Draft."

Halfcan · 02-14-2020, 10:49 AM

He looks like a very aggressive and sure tackler. Pretty nice moves on those returns too.

staylor26 · 02-14-2020, 11:10 AM

I just don’t know that we can afford to spend another high pick at safety with all of our other needs.

wachashi · 02-14-2020, 11:38 AM

His role would be a lot different than Thornhill or Mathieu. Ben Niemann played 400 defensive snaps this year. Sorensen played 563 and could be cut this year to clear cap room. This guy might be able to play both of those roles, but unlike Niemann and Sorenson, he's an athletic freak.

I could see Spags falling in love with his versatility, but he is raw.

kccrow · 02-14-2020, 07:49 PM

I'd much rather take a flier on Myles Dorn from North Carolina in the 5th. Dad played in the league. Athletic as hell. A bit raw.

Chief Northman · 02-14-2020, 10:11 PM

Most projections I’ve seen on Dugger have him ranked as a 4th/5th round prospect.

I’d be on board with him there, as opposed to a top 90 pick...

**jjchieffan** · 02-15-2020, 11:50 AM

They had this kid on SiriusXM NFL channel the other day. I was thinking how good of a fit he would be in KC as wet. I believe that he's an engineering major as well. Really smart. I'll be watching to see where he ends up going

staylor26 · 02-24-2020, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

His role would be a lot different than Thornhill or Mathieu. Ben Niemann played 400 defensive snaps this year. Sorensen played 563 and could be cut this year to clear cap room. This guy might be able to play both of those roles, but unlike Niemann and Sorenson, he's an athletic freak.

I could see Spags falling in love with his versatility, but he is raw.

After digging on him a little more, I definitely like the idea of playing him at LB in subs while he grows into a WLB full time.

I don’t think he’ll make it to 63, but he would be a solid pick there.

Bill Brasky · 02-25-2020, 01:10 PM

Why does anyone think we'd cut Sorenson? His cap number next year is $4.7M, with $1M in dead money. Saving $3.7M is peanuts considering he's spent 6 years learning the chiefs system and is still an effective play maker. Creating another void at safety for that little in cap space doesn't make any sense at all.

He's a FA after next year. It's more realistic Veach lets his contract run out and he becomes a FA after the 2020 season.

Hoover · 02-25-2020, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

Why does anyone think we'd cut Sorenson? His cap number next year is $4.7M, with $1M in dead money. Saving $3.7M is peanuts considering he's spent 6 years learning the chiefs system and is still an effective play maker. Creating another void at safety for that little in cap space doesn't make any sense at all.

He's a FA after next year. It's more realistic Veach lets his contract run out and he becomes a FA after the 2020 season.

I tend to agree but depends how much money we need to find.

Chief Northman · 02-25-2020, 05:00 PM

There are some really versatile safeties in this class 3-4 rounds deep...

staylor26 · 02-25-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

There are some really versatile safeties in this class 3-4 rounds deep...

This one isn’t making it out of round 2 though.

Chief Northman · 02-25-2020, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

This one isn’t making it out of round 2 though.

Yes, he definitely is trending up.

staylor26 · 02-25-2020, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Yes, he definitely is trending up.

Honestly, I love the idea of getting Gladney and him with our first 2 picks, though I don’t think it’s likely that he makes it to 63. We would be adding a lot of speed with those 2.

wachashi · 02-26-2020, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

Why does anyone think we'd cut Sorenson? His cap number next year is $4.7M, with $1M in dead money. Saving $3.7M is peanuts considering he's spent 6 years learning the chiefs system and is still an effective play maker. Creating another void at safety for that little in cap space doesn't make any sense at all.

He's a FA after next year. It's more realistic Veach lets his contract run out and he becomes a FA after the 2020 season.

I hope we keep Sorenson, and I think we probably do. He's versatile, great on special teams, and has proven his worth. With that said, there are only 3 players you could realistically think about cutting that provide a larger cap savings than Sorenson.

Sammy Watkins: $14 million in cap savings
LDT: $5 million in cap savings
Damien Wilson: $4.5 million in cap savings
Daniel Sorenson: $3.75 million in cap savings

If the Chiefs hit on a player like Dugger and believe he can step in right away and play Sorenson's role, it becomes more likely that he'll be cut.

02-14-2020, 10:38 AM
wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7210400	Kyle Dugger - S/LB, Lenoir-Rhyne This guy is intriguing and could be another Swiss Army Knife type of player for Spags. If Sorenson gets cut, this is the type of player you can draft to fill that role, and he's much, MUCH, more athletic than Sorenson. Lots of draft pundits are saying he can play off-ball linebacker at the NFL level. He's 6' 1" 217lbs. Right now, it looks like he'll be available at the end of the second round/beginning of the third. He's a "sleeper" pick because he played D-II ball. His tape is fun because he completely outclasses everyone else on the field athletically and he returned kicks. He's been called, "one of the best pure athletes in the 2020 NFL Draft."
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wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7210400	His role would be a lot different than Thornhill or Mathieu. Ben Niemann played 400 defensive snaps this year. Sorensen played 563 and could be cut this year to clear cap room. This guy might be able to play both of those roles, but unlike Niemann and Sorenson, he's an athletic freak. I could see Spags falling in love with his versatility, but he is raw.
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Bill Brasky Veteran Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $8384914	Why does anyone think we'd cut Sorenson? His cap number next year is $4.7M, with $1M in dead money. Saving $3.7M is peanuts considering he's spent 6 years learning the chiefs system and is still an effective play maker. Creating another void at safety for that little in cap space doesn't make any sense at all. He's a FA after next year. It's more realistic Veach lets his contract run out and he becomes a FA after the 2020 season.
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