Is a CB a WR with bad hands?

Dinny Bossa Nova · 03-21-2005, 06:54 AM

Or some kind of old radio?

Do we have any speedy receivers who drop a pass here and there that could do a better job than our current starters if the season started today?

Dinny

elvomito · 03-21-2005, 07:19 AM

doesn't a CB need more smarts than a WR? and need good hands as well.

Hammock Parties · 03-21-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

Or some kind of old radio?

Do we have any speedy receivers who drop a pass here and there that could do a better job than our current starters if the season started today?

Dinny

No. Absolutely not.

Most wide receivers probably can't tackle too well, either.

Amnorix · 03-21-2005, 08:00 AM

It's MUCH more complex that that.

1. Quickness/flexibility/strength -- CBs will tend to be more athletic in terms of strength, quickness and ability to change direction than WRs. WRs know where they are going, and only *need* to be strong enough to catch the ball and not get injured in the process (and block downfield if possible). CBs need to run backwards, stay with the WR, recover quickly if they get turned the wrong way, have excellent closing speed / burst to get to the ball, etc. etc.

2. Height / vertical leap -- these items tend to favor WRs. In other words, if you have a ton of one or both of these, then you're more likely to be a WR. It's rare as heck to see a CB much over 6 feet.

3. Hands -- obviously favors WRs.

4. Smarts / football instincts -- favors CBs. I'm not saying morons can be fine as WRs (sadly, the Patriots former FA signee Donald Hayes proved you CAN be too dumb to play WR for the Patriots, at least), but generally a WR has to know a small handful of things -- (1) is it a pass or run play, (2) if run, where is the ball going, who should he block, and (3) if pass, what route is he running, and (3a) what happens on a blitz -- how does he adjust. A CB, meanwhile, needs to recognize offensive formations, understand what kind of defense he's in (and there are many), what happens when someone on offense goes in motion, etc. etc.

So yeah, it's more than hands.

carlos3652 · 03-21-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

Or some kind of old radio?

Do we have any speedy receivers who drop a pass here and there that could do a better job than our current starters if the season started today?

Dinny

Johnny Morton needs to quit posting on this BB, lets ban him, he's getting cut after June 1st anyway....

Hoover · 03-21-2005, 09:58 AM

Do WR run backwards?

whoman69 · 03-21-2005, 12:35 PM

The talent pool for CBs and WRs used to be about equal. But in these days of free agency, the WRs are higher visibility athletes. The contracts being given by the league to top CBs may start to swing that, but it will be awhile, especially given that CBs have to play with both arms tied behind their backs these days.

LiL stumppy · 03-21-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

Or some kind of old radio?

Do we have any speedy receivers who drop a pass here and there that could do a better job than our current starters if the season started today?

Dinny

Eddie Kennision

jarjar · 03-21-2005, 01:17 PM

No. I can't see how a Wideout is going to have good coverage technique. It's probably more accurate to say that WR's are tall CBs with better hands but worse instincts.

Chieficus · 03-21-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Most wide receivers probably can't tackle too well, either.

Well, they'd fit in great with the rest of our DB's...

Simplex3 · 03-21-2005, 01:49 PM

No, a WR with bad hands is a Chiefs starting WR or draft pick.

**CosmicPal** · 03-21-2005, 01:56 PM

No, but did you know a kicker is a QB with a bad arm?

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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	It's MUCH more complex that that. 1. Quickness/flexibility/strength -- CBs will tend to be more athletic in terms of strength, quickness and ability to change direction than WRs. WRs know where they are going, and only need to be strong enough to catch the ball and not get injured in the process (and block downfield if possible). CBs need to run backwards, stay with the WR, recover quickly if they get turned the wrong way, have excellent closing speed / burst to get to the ball, etc. etc. 2. Height / vertical leap -- these items tend to favor WRs. In other words, if you have a ton of one or both of these, then you're more likely to be a WR. It's rare as heck to see a CB much over 6 feet. 3. Hands -- obviously favors WRs. 4. Smarts / football instincts -- favors CBs. I'm not saying morons can be fine as WRs (sadly, the Patriots former FA signee Donald Hayes proved you CAN be too dumb to play WR for the Patriots, at least), but generally a WR has to know a small handful of things -- (1) is it a pass or run play, (2) if run, where is the ball going, who should he block, and (3) if pass, what route is he running, and (3a) what happens on a blitz -- how does he adjust. A CB, meanwhile, needs to recognize offensive formations, understand what kind of defense he's in (and there are many), what happens when someone on offense goes in motion, etc. etc. So yeah, it's more than hands. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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