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Old 10-16-2013, 09:44 PM  
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Would you trade Flowers next year?
For a 2nd round pick? We've seen the defense play just as good if not better without him.

If Cooper continues to play like he has been you have him on a 4 year 7th round pick deal.

You have to pay Justin Houston. I wouldn't be surprised to see Charles hold out given the way he's being used and his current bargain contract.

IIRC Berrys contract will be up in a few years too.

The defense is set the offense needs a lot of improvement obviously. An extra pick would help. I would make that trade.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:00 PM   #16
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Easily.

You can restructure guys, naturally let guys leave, Dunta for sure wont be back, they don't have max draft picks to worry about signing.

I believe that Chase Daniel will be gone next year, which will open up another three mil.

They should get Albert signed to a longer deal that will be more cap friendly with more guaranteed money.

And, furthermore, its WAY too early to be talking about NEXT SEASON.

This isn't Cleveland for Christ's sakes.
I forgot about Albert. He needs to be a priority. Even with an AC sprain he's easily been the best OL on the team.

Anyway I disagree with you. Sure Flowers is a top 20 corner but a pass rush always trumps a secondary. We already have that. You can always find Tracy Porters of thr world to fill in for a couplenof yeara and do a decent job.

This offense has a lot of holes. The interior line needs to be addressed, the tight end position, WR's, and you need to develop a QB.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:01 PM   #17
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First we bitch that we let Carr go for 50MM. Then after we find a 7th round gem we are willing to trade Flowers. WTF?
I never bitched about letting Carr go he was/is an overrated player who was overpaid by Dallas.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:01 PM   #18
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:02 PM   #19
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:03 PM   #20
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Restructuring Eric Berry would make for an excellent start. Losing 15 million in dead money sounds pretty nice as well. If there is a trade target next year it is Tamba Hali.
really?
nope he should stay for 2 more years unless we get a 1st or third

still close to the top of the pass rush game
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It's a quarterback's league. When you have guys that can stop quarterbacks, you keep them.
Its that way because of the rules which put the CB's at a disadvantage. The best way to stop a QB is with a great pass rush. Again you're set outside with Cooper/Smith.

I'm saying if you have cap issues and can get a high pick for a corner you do it.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:04 PM   #22
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I would be interested in seeing the Jets defensive stats this year compared to when they had Revis. I feel as though my theory might be right.
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First we bitch that we let Carr go for 50MM. Then after we find a 7th round gem we are willing to trade Flowers. WTF?
never even heard of coop may be the second carr
and I think carr was bettwer than flowers, but I love flowers
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really?
nope he should stay for 2 more years unless we get a 1st or third

still close to the top of the pass rush game
I'm just saying he is the only guy who we could get anything for that would result in substantial cap savings.
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There's is NO way Flowers will be traded. We've seen them play well without him for a short time. You can do that sometimes. But over time it would kill us. No way to trading him
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Restructuring Eric Berry would make for an excellent start. Losing 15 million in dead money sounds pretty nice as well. If there is a trade target next year it is Tamba Hali.
Uhhhh. how about just a restructure. He is probably the most underrated player in football right now. Yes, he got defensive player of the week, but Houston has gotten most of the pub, and lets not kid ourselves, Hali has been the best CHIEFS defensive player all year.

And that's saying something because guys like DJ, HOUSTON, POE, DEVITO, BERRY, have been playing their best ball of their careers.

Hali is that important to this team.
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I forgot about Albert. He needs to be a priority. Even with an AC sprain he's easily been the best OL on the team.

Anyway I disagree with you. Sure Flowers is a top 20 corner but a pass rush always trumps a secondary. We already have that. You can always find Tracy Porters of thr world to fill in for a couplenof yeara and do a decent job.

This offense has a lot of holes. The interior line needs to be addressed, the tight end position, WR's, and you need to develop a QB.
They go hand in hand. They really do. I believe the pass rush is essential to the secondary, but having three quality corners in this league to be a dominant defense is not only a must, but its a luxury.

You don't give that up I don't believe.

Especially when you have wes welker in your division.
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