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Old 03-10-2019, 12:42 PM  
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Jeff Allen praises Antonio Brown
Chiefs’ Jeff Allen praises Antonio Brown for disrupting the system
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2019, 2:24 PM EDT
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In a league where stars rarely win contract disputes and rarely choose their teams, Antonio Brown did both. Other players are noticing.

Shortly after Brown got his wish of a trade out of Pittsburgh and a new contract, Chiefs offensive lineman Jeff Allen said in a series of tweets that Brown helped show that players can occasionally win a game that is usually won by the owners.

“AB just disrupted a system that’s designed for us to contractually lose in. If you hate it then hate what the other side does everyday,” Allen wrote.

Allen believes that Brown was wise to make waves publicly and force the Steelers’ hand.

“He had to publicly do this to even have a chance of being moved. If he would have quietly tried this which a lot guys do he’d still be in Pittsburgh. Owners can move in silence because they have the power,” Allen wrote.

In Allen’s view, if owners don’t want players to try to force their way out of situations like Brown just did, then owners should guarantee all contracts.

“It’s football you get hurt. It’s a 100% injury rate. I’m fair and honest, you can care about winning along with your check. Guys wouldn’t care about money if contracts were fully guaranteed. AB was already paid he just wasn’t happy in Pittsburgh it’s simple,” Allen wrote. “What does a contract mean when you can get cut after getting hurt while laying your body on the line for your team or cut just because they feel like you aren’t worth what the contract says.”

Allen said he personally wouldn’t do the same thing Brown did, but he knows he doesn’t have the leverage that a four-time first-team All-Pro like Brown has.

“I can’t do what he did, you have to be honest with yourself,” Allen wrote.

At a time when Brown has lost a lot of fans in Pittsburgh, he has surely gained a lot of fans among his fellow players, who are glad to see a player come out ahead in a dispute with his team.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:45 PM   #2
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:47 PM   #3
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“I can’t do what he did, you have to be honest with yourself,” Allen wrote.

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Allen is right though. The holdout in 21 will be over guaranteed contracts. And it's long overdue.
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All guaranteed contracts? Then watch as players like Dee Ford don’t get contract offers. Why would I pay big money to someone who only showed up in a contract year?
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I have said in other threads that this has set a bad precedent and I believe this is the beginning of unintentional consequences to come from it.

We have all seen players performance drop off after getting paid. Imagine what would happen if the money was fully guaranteed?
Currently, if the player drops off you have to suffer through it for a year or two depending on how the contract was structured and then cut the guy. This could keep a guy motivated and maintain some leverage.
Fully guaranteed means you ride it out for the full length of the contract, destroying your team for years.
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I kinda want the players to get fully guaranteed just to see the shock when they are making less money on 1-2 year contracts only with QBs being the only ones to make big money.

Also veterans would be hardest hit as the older you are the more injury prone you are thus less valuable. Being able to show up every game is a pretty valuable thing to have.
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I have said in other threads that this has set a bad precedent and I believe this is the beginning of unintentional consequences to come from it.

We have all seen players performance drop off after getting paid. Imagine what would happen if the money was fully guaranteed?
Currently, if the player drops off you have to suffer through it for a year or two depending on how the contract was structured and then cut the guy. This could keep a guy motivated and maintain some leverage.
Fully guaranteed means you ride it out for the full length of the contract, destroying your team for years.
That will happen a couple times before teams stop offering long contracts to players other than QBs. You will see contracts go to a shorter time for less base money but more incentive money.
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I have said in other threads that this has set a bad precedent and I believe this is the beginning of unintentional consequences to come from it.

We have all seen players performance drop off after getting paid. Imagine what would happen if the money was fully guaranteed?
Currently, if the player drops off you have to suffer through it for a year or two depending on how the contract was structured and then cut the guy. This could keep a guy motivated and maintain some leverage.
Fully guaranteed means you ride it out for the full length of the contract, destroying your team for years.
I think you'd just see lots of shorter contracts for non-K/P/QB positions
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Allen is right though. The holdout in 21 will be over guaranteed contracts. And it's long overdue.
A) They can already get guaranteed contracts. Most players simply do not have the negotiating leverage to demand them.
B) The ones that don't have them, effectively get them via signing bonuses anyway.

If players want those guaranteed contracts, they can kiss those massive signing bonuses goodbye. If salary is guaranteed over time, it's just gonna get culled out of the signing bonus anyway. Ultimately it's a matter of accounting tricks and nothing more.
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A) They can already get guaranteed contracts. Most players simply do not have the negotiating leverage to demand them.
B) The ones that don't have them, effectively get them via signing bonuses anyway.

If players want those guaranteed contracts, they can kiss those massive signing bonuses goodbye. If salary is guaranteed over time, it's just gonna get culled out of the signing bonus anyway. Ultimately it's a matter of accounting tricks and nothing more.
I suppose that is possible and even probable.

My thoughts immediately go to Berry and Houston. We all thought at the time, they were worth the contracts they were given and they were.
A few years later we are looking for any way to get out from under those deals. Imagine if they were fully guaranteed? Yikes
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