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Old 07-30-2024, 07:39 AM  
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Old 07-30-2024, 01:33 PM   #76
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Butker's a distraction and rule changes have made kickers fungible. I think spending a premium on him is a mistake.

Creed's not a perfect center but you have to have continuity if you want to protect the best QB in the league.



Uh, guess you didn't see where Andy/Toub are probably backing off the whole "JR will be kicking KOs," huh? There's a funny thing about how the kick has to be aimed.


And Butker is a distraction to who exactly? And what does that have to do with football or scoring points? You get that KC probably doesn't win the last two SBs without Butker, right?



Pivot: how much could Butker get paid? What was the biggest contract for a kicker anyway?
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Old 07-30-2024, 01:48 PM   #77
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If Karloftis' ascent to superstar happens this year (like I think it will) that 5th year option is so, so huge. Same w/ McDuffie (who is already elite).

Thuney's money/age combo doesn't make sense to Veach after this year, so he's likely gone.

Big questions are obviously going to be Smith & Bolton. If either of Nourzad or Hanson look like a stud in camp & preseason, that would make the Smith decision very easy on paper, despite the nostalgia factor.

Bolton is the tougher one for me. I don't see how we let him walk if he has another healthy/elite year. I do bet he tests the market as DJLN suggests, but I'd really like to find a way to keep him for that second deal. Could he be a tag candidate? I imagine the LB tag is affordable....

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It isn't. There's no tag category for off-ball 'backers. It's all linebackers, including the OLB edge rushers that get $30 million/season.

The tag is cost prohibitive for Bolton.
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Old 07-30-2024, 02:16 PM   #78
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Uh, guess you didn't see where Andy/Toub are probably backing off the whole "JR will be kicking KOs," huh? There's a funny thing about how the kick has to be aimed.


And Butker is a distraction to who exactly? And what does that have to do with football or scoring points? You get that KC probably doesn't win the last two SBs without Butker, right?



Pivot: how much could Butker get paid? What was the biggest contract for a kicker anyway?
Tucker is 4/24. really pretty reasonable considering what Butkers done and the amount of points he puts up.
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Old 07-30-2024, 02:19 PM   #79
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Tucker is 4/24. really pretty reasonable considering what Butkers done and the amount of points he puts up.
As argued previously, he probably get $6.5-7M per.

Counting the playoffs, Butkicker is the better kicker.
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Tucker is 4/24. really pretty reasonable considering what Butkers done and the amount of points he puts up.


Butker has been the leading scorer for the Chiefs since he became the PK.
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Literally every time I watch McDuffie play or even do an interview I walk away even more impressed with that dude. One of the best picks of the Veach era, and that's a very high bar. Fantastic player and incredibly solid person by all appearances. Needs to be a Chief for life.
Yeah....I struggle to find a fault with the guy to be honest. He may end up being....shit I dunno the best Chief CB of all time?
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They are not tagging a LB. $25-$30 million for a LB. No way Veach pays that.

They either get a contract or he walks.
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As argued previously, he probably get $6.5-7M per.

Counting the playoffs, Butkicker is the better kicker.
I'd give him 5/$35 without batting an eye.

He'd be the same age Tucker is now at the end of that deal and would be probably around the top 1/3 in terms of kicker salary.
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Yeah....I struggle to find a fault with the guy to be honest. He may end up being....shit I dunno the best Chief CB of all time?
He can get bodied off the ball at times but shit man, that's picking nits.

He's the stickiest CB I've ever seen in KC. You just can't shake the dude.
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Yeah....I struggle to find a fault with the guy to be honest. He may end up being....shit I dunno the best Chief CB of all time?
McDuffie has hands of stone which is indicative why he plays CB.
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let’s get rid of him now!
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Yeah....I struggle to find a fault with the guy to be honest. He may end up being....shit I dunno the best Chief CB of all time?
He was going to be the next jersey purchase, but then Veach had to go draft another baller in Worthy, so he's it now.
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McDuffie has hands of stone which is indicative why he plays CB.
He seems to force a lot of fumbles, especially for a CB.
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McDuffie has hands of stone which is indicative why he plays CB.
I haven't seen him drop any ints, where are you getting that?

They just don't throw his way that often
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I haven't seen him drop any ints, where are you getting that?

They just don't throw his way that often


He doesn't have an iNT. He's had at least a couple chances. They would've been tough catches for a DB though.
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